Torsion lift - Pics and How To
#81
#83
it seems the rake is a mileage compromize and then the front suspension geometry is designed around it. the ride height is speced in the front alignment instructions. when you level it you move away from design specs and best handling but probably not a real big deal since almost everyone but us "60's"rake people do it!
some who go too high report weird handling.
u need to get it aligned after messing with the t bars
some who go too high report weird handling.
u need to get it aligned after messing with the t bars
#86
Yea, Im tightening the bolt & its hard as hell. Is this suppose to be this hard? I,m at 22 3/4 not sure I can get that next inch. Any comments?
#87
Use a bigger wrench. Actually, it's a stiff bolt so a longer wrench helps. As does PB Blaster on the bolt and jacking it up off the ground but it can still be stiff anyway.
#88
So exactly what is it that stops downward suspension travel (droop) on the front of our H3s? Is it the full extension of the shock, or is there a physical stop in the suspension arms? How about the upper travel limit? Physical stop or shock bottoming out? On another site, it is claimed that there are physical stops, both upper and lower, although the tie rods and swaybar also play a part.
Here's why I ask; I keep hearing that after a torsion crank that the shocks should be replaced because the stock ones are too short (in fact, even Trail Duty claims that). ???? There is no logic to that. The upper range of suspension arm travel is fixed, so is the lower range. Cranking our torsions simply adjusts where the arms rest between those two extremes; it does not change either one. Suspension "travel" is not changed.
And even if the actual physical travel of the shock (both full extension and full compression) is the limiting factor (which would seem to be a bad design, but...), then cranking the torsions would again simply change the resting position, resulting in more up-travel and less down-travel before the limits are reached. I fail to see how suspension travel (and therefore the need for "longer" shocks) is changed by cranking the torsions.
So other than an improved ride, is there any validity to the claim that longer shocks are needed? Or am I missing something that's blatantly obvious to others?
Here's why I ask; I keep hearing that after a torsion crank that the shocks should be replaced because the stock ones are too short (in fact, even Trail Duty claims that). ???? There is no logic to that. The upper range of suspension arm travel is fixed, so is the lower range. Cranking our torsions simply adjusts where the arms rest between those two extremes; it does not change either one. Suspension "travel" is not changed.
And even if the actual physical travel of the shock (both full extension and full compression) is the limiting factor (which would seem to be a bad design, but...), then cranking the torsions would again simply change the resting position, resulting in more up-travel and less down-travel before the limits are reached. I fail to see how suspension travel (and therefore the need for "longer" shocks) is changed by cranking the torsions.
So other than an improved ride, is there any validity to the claim that longer shocks are needed? Or am I missing something that's blatantly obvious to others?
Last edited by 650Hawk; 01-11-2016 at 06:45 PM.
#89
You are 100% correct. Stock shocks are the travel limiters in our suspension, but only by about 1/2". However...I think that the rubber stops in the shocks also compress slightly so dynamic articulation is probably much closer to the mechanical stop limits. Adding a 1/2" nut (the Hunner nut trick) adds all the extra length that is needed.
#90
So if that's the case, then the additional 1/2" would be desirable regardless of torsion position. Lifting the front end by cranking the torsions doesn't change suspension travel nor does it require longer shocks any more than the stock position. Thanks for the clarification.
Last edited by 650Hawk; 01-12-2016 at 09:06 AM.