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CWS
3/7/2008 6:22:15 AM
You go Doc, right on.
 
Cliff
Gunz
3/7/2008 6:35:35 AM
So let me know how the hot chick is Sunday and hopefully you remember to practice safety!
alphadogg
3/7/2008 7:01:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: 3hummers
Well hasn't this turned interesting? I have been buying cars longer than many of you have been alive.

I know this is way off topic by I've got to chime in here. I bought my first car in 1964, that would be 44 years ago! It was a 1955 Plymouth. I've only ever owned one foreign car and that was a 1967 VW bug that I purchased after getting out of the Army only because it cost $1600 brand new!
 
Back in the 70’s and 80’s Japanese cars were junk as well as Korean cars were. American cars were not the best made either. The UAW was only worried about getting as many benefits for their members as possible and now it’s killing them because they can’t afford to pay those benefits or hourly wages.
 
I’ve done work in the local GM engine plant as a outside contractor and the work ethic there is horrible. The workers are more worried about getting overtime then doing their job. They have exercise equipment, horseshoe courts, volleyball courts, card games, all during work hours inside the plant! That’s not how it is in the Japanese plants. They improved their products and simply kicked our butts and gave the American people a better product. Their automobiles simply last longer and that’s why people buy their cars.
Still won’t buy a foreign car or truck because even though it may be “made in the USA“ it’s still a foreign company and profits are going overseas.
 
The problem goes way deeper then this. The government could have closed the border and not allowed the foreign cars into the country and the UAW would have continued to make junk cars and trucks. A little competition actually made the American auto makers improve their products. This discussion could go on forever because everyone has their own point of view. This happens to be mine.
importkiller
3/7/2008 7:04:46 AM
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ORIGINAL: importkiller


Off topic, but needs to be said.....Why do people come here and be fake? Why not admit your a kid and be done with it? Remember I have IP addresses, pretty funny what stuff I can find...SO how is your X-box deal doing anyway?

 
Being that you are 14 I guess we're gonna hve to wait till after school is over for an answer How's the weather down there in Florida?  I'm curious...I know this is you, just not sure which one is you?
 
alphadogg
3/7/2008 7:17:19 AM
immpy,
 
Do you mean to tell me one of those pisspot kids started this whole friggin' controversy? Why not just give him the boot and be done with it? You're right, maybe I am an old man without a sense of humor because I hate those words he used and would not stand for it from anyone else let alone a 14 year old.
blackbear
3/7/2008 7:24:03 AM
Does this look familiar????
 
importkiller
3/7/2008 7:24:17 AM
The kid with the story is not one of the kids in the picture....even though the story is a little immature...even for a 20 yo, but thats another topic. The kid in that picture is another person that did stir up some chit in this thread. I'm not going to just ban him, because...well...let's face, it's fun calling them out
importkiller
3/7/2008 7:26:39 AM
black bear....LMAO.
 
I can see the responce now..."that is my son's x-box! I'm 47 years old"
Hawaiian Hummah
3/7/2008 7:50:38 AM
since i started this I guess that means i'm the one being called a kid? Being born before Viet Nam war started I'd hardly call myself a kid, and just for all your info "jap" is a derogatory remark against japanese people termed during WW2, it's the same as a KKK guy calling an African American a "edit by IK"
you guys may not mean it that way but it is what it is
importkiller
3/7/2008 7:57:53 AM
ok...THis is the second time a post of yours has been edted or removed for using those remarks and language....third time and you are gone.....GOT IT?!?!?!
 
 
And you are not the kid I and others were reffering to...get a clue before you huff and puff. That is all....a responce to this will only get you baned...so just walk away
Evadd
3/7/2008 8:10:48 AM
since i'm pretty much partial to the whole foreign-US debate (while i'd like to buy American [and i clearly just did, with the H3], i'll buy whatever i feel to be the best deal and best-made), i'll say that the thing i find kind of amusing is that the same people who claim that the term "Jap crap" (or whatever other phrase - it doesn't really matter which) isn't offensive are the same ones who get offended by people who say "American cars are crap."  take a step back and realize you're both doing the same thing.


that's all.  carry on with the old men grabbing boobies, please. 
importkiller
3/7/2008 8:17:24 AM
no one really got offended by people saying american made cars are crap....but we will not tolerate someone using derogatory ethnic phrases...like the N word.
 
As far as This board taking sides when people saying amercan cars are crap...WHat do you expect? this is a freekin hummer forum?!?! Same chit goes on on import forums when you say jap cars are crap. Being an American citizen and a son of a former Linden NJ GM plant worker and being a former GM mechanic myself...of course I prefer American...I like to support my country...thanks 
alphadogg
3/7/2008 8:44:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: D VADER

GEEEEZ! What happened to the Chicks.  I picked up this sweet looking blonde last night. What a Hummer!



 
I don't know Vader, this chick looks awful familiar. I swear I’ve seen her before. Where did you say you met her?
Evadd
3/7/2008 9:09:08 AM
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ORIGINAL: importkiller

no one really got offended by people saying american made cars are crap....but we will not tolerate someone using derogatory ethnic phrases...like the N word.

As far as This board taking sides when people saying amercan cars are crap...WHat do you expect? this is a freekin hummer forum?!?! Same chit goes on on import forums when you say jap cars are crap. Being an American citizen and a son of a former Linden NJ GM plant worker and being a former GM mechanic myself...of course I prefer American...I like to support my country...thanks 


fair enough. :)

i agree; i like to support the US whenever possible also.  if it comes down to accepting an inferior product, i won't do it, however.  that being said, i think US car manufacturers are definitely heading in the right direction as of recent years, for the most part.  there is still some catching up to do, but i was more than happy (and proud) to buy a US-branded car that i feel is solid.
Doc Olds
3/7/2008 9:18:37 AM
Alphadogg:  I agree with everything you said, except that jap crap lasts longer.    Seen anybody doing restos on 1975 Civics, you know, the ones with recycled steel??
 
 
I am no fan of the UAW, but not all UAW workers are loafers, but the bad apples do spoil the bunch.  That's another story, they have been busy pricing their labor out of the market for years.  Competition is what our market has always been based upon, but how about a level playing field???
 
 
Ok, so now that the starter of this thread got his 3 smashed, guess we won't be hearing how that hummer picker upper works out. 
 
 
D VADER
3/7/2008 9:31:25 AM
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ORIGINAL: Hawaiian Hummah

since i started this I guess that means i'm the one being called a kid? Being born before Viet Nam war started I'd hardly call myself a kid, and just for all your info "jap" is a derogatory remark against japanese people termed during WW2, it's the same as a KKK guy calling an African American a "edit by IK"
you guys may not mean it that way but it is what it is

 
If everyone disagrees with you does that mean your WRONG?
Because you say, "It is what it is" doesn't make you the authority here.
Doc Olds
3/7/2008 9:33:50 AM
Just a different perception.  Any auto industry in Hawaii?? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hawaiian Hummah
3/7/2008 9:40:52 AM
well if the moderators can make ethnic derogatory remarks but members get "threatened" to have there membership removed, go ahead and remove me,, sheez I thought there was adults here
hope you guys don't come to Hawaii cause there's lots of Japs here and you probably wouldn't enjoy yourselfs
importkiller
3/7/2008 9:48:47 AM
jap crap and the N word are not even on the same teir as far as derogatory remarks....dear lord...gain some insight will ya?!?!
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jap+Crap
 
 
even #2 which is the only one to even mentione the term as at all offending says ; A derogatory term used to describe pop culture from Japan.
 
SO how is that comparing to the N word? There are words that are derogatory towards taht race as well...and those will not be allowed to be posted here...jap crap in not one of them....again....buy a clue.
Doc Olds
3/7/2008 10:05:42 AM
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ORIGINAL: Hawaiian Hummah

well if the moderators can make ethnic derogatory remarks but members get "threatened" to have there membership removed, go ahead and remove me,, sheez I thought there was adults here
hope you guys don't come to Hawaii cause there's lots of Japs here and you probably wouldn't enjoy yourselfs

 
Like I said, any auto industry in Hawaii???   Professor?    
 
 
 
 
Face it, you don't get it.  As far as I'm concerned you are welcome to stay.  If you are of Japanese decent and take offese with my use of the term, I appoligize and misunderstood your sensitivity on the issue.  However, jap crap is a term refering to products .....made by jewish american princesses. 
Hawaiian Hummah
3/7/2008 10:22:48 AM
i'm not trying to start trouble and I did find your definition in the dictionary.com site of a jewish american princess, but are they making cars now? I believe and it may be only my opinion but it was used in reference to Japanese made cars and if you see the following as jap also has the jewish definition please n
ote the reference to a japanese born person




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Doc Olds
3/7/2008 10:48:24 AM
It was just a joke.  Thanks.
blackbear
3/7/2008 10:54:42 AM
You know what buddy......your really starting to piss me off, you got an apology from Doc, and I honestly think he had nothing to apologize for, there were no derogatory comments made to any race as far as I'm concerned, you just don't want to understand what we are talking about here, have a look at another example below 
 
 





 
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alphadogg
3/7/2008 11:04:44 AM
Ya know what? My mother was an Irish Mick, my father was a Canuck born in Hamilton, Ontario, my wife is a Dago and we all lived happily ever after!
blackbear
3/7/2008 11:21:02 AM
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ORIGINAL: alphadogg

Ya know what? My mother was an Irish Mick, my father was a Canuck born in Hamilton, Ontario, my wife is a Dago and we all lived happily ever after!




 
My parents are Hungarian, I was born in Quebec, went to english school, my wife is french, my kids are part Hungarian, french and english, you know what, we all have some immigrant backgrounds in some way
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