Sorry Doctors

PHYSICIANS:
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is
 
700,000.
 
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians
 
per year are
 
120,000.
 
(C) Accidental deaths per physician
is
 
0.171.
 
Statistics courtesy of
U.S. Dept of
Health & Human Services.
 
Handguns:
Now think about this:
 
Guns:
 
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.
 
is
 
80,000,000.
 
(Yes, that's 80 million)
 
 
(B) Accidental gun deaths
 
per year, all age groups,
 
is
 
1,500.
 
 
(C) The number of accidental deaths
 
per gun owner
 
is
 
.000188.
 
Statistics courtesy of FBI
 
 
 
So, statistically, doctors are approximately
 
9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
 
 
 
Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do.
 
FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,
 
BUT
 
ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.
 
 
 
Please alert your friends
 
to this
 
alarming threat.
 
We must ban doctors
before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!
 
 
Out of concern for the public at large,
I have withheld the statistics on
 
lawyers
 
for fear the shock would cause
 
people to panic and seek medical attention.
 
A concerned citizen!
 
You're only as strong as:
 
The liquor you drink
The tables you dance on
The friends that you have

OK let me get my boots on cuz the chit gonna get deep now...You have to remember that Doctors have a license to PRACTICE medicine. Practice makes perfect...on the other hand they are praised by their successful accomplishments but burry their mistakes...Then we are back to practice, practice practice... 1 more thing my father was a burried mistake

1 more thing my father was a burried mistake

Same here Little Monster

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ORIGINAL: Little Monster

OK let me get my boots on cuz the chit gonna get deep now...You have to remember that Doctors have a license to PRACTICE medicine. Practice makes perfect...on the other hand they are praised by their successful accomplishments but burry their mistakes...Then we are back to practice, practice practice... 1 more thing my father was a burried mistake

 
When I stayed at the hospital for 2 days in November, they wanted to give me breathing treatments and other things ORDERED by a Doctor who never even saw me until an hour before I was released.  I refused the treatments.  I came in for severe dehydration and nausea, not breathing problems.  I had quickly mentioned I had asthma a few days before, but that was the first time in maybe 2 years.  They took that as I couldn't breath.  I was a little pissed off.  After explaining this to 3 different nurses, I still had someone 3 times come in my room wanting to stick a tube down my throat.  After hearing the horror stories from my wife's mother who works at a hospital, I believe these statistics.  It's a shame that there are so many great doctors out there but it only takes a few to give the entire practice a bad name in the eyes of skeptics.

Believe me I AM SPECTICAL...

Well so am I.  I have had the same doctor since I was 2.  I first had her when she started at my hometown hospital as a resident.  Now 28 years later she still has her own practice with her husband and is able to know exactly what's wrong with someone before she even sees them.  She is the only one that was able to fix my wife when other doctors had no clue what to do.  That's why I still take the 40 mile drive to go see her.  Even after the hospital stay when I told her what happened, she told me the reason I was so bad was because I was given antibiotics that were way too strong for me, and my immune system is pretty damn good.  I also am paranoid about hospitals, but who isn't these days.

First.  Dilo I'm very sad to hear about your father.  Everyone of my grandparents died as a result of a medical error.  Whether it was a misdiagnosis or just plain mistake.  My dad, who fortunately is still alive, was diagnosed with allegies and was being treated for over 1 year for allergies, until he started coughing up blood and they then realized that it was lung cancer.  Yes those stats are true and I'm personally quite ashamed.  However, one must also look at the other side.  How many people would have died without doctors.  Most of the rules and concepts that I practice today are significantly different than what I had learned in school.  Why?  The body didn't change, but our knowledge did.  I remember a professor stating in class one time that by the time we take the final exam, some of the info is already outdated!  The body is extremely complex.  I personally have 12 years of college and I only know a portion of what I specialize in let alone other areas.  We are only human, but we have come forth to do the very best that we can to try to help.  It takes a significant amount of time, money, stress, and long hours.  Believe me, no doc wants to injury or kill anyone, but at least we have the courage to step up to the plate and do our best to try to help.

And that is why I still go to the same one I have had for 28 years.  Mark and Monster, I feel quite ignorant in not seeing what you both wrote.  I'm also sorry to hear about that.  Like I said, it only takes a few to put paranoia in many.  I did, however, go to a new doctor before I got sick.  He is the same doctor two weeks prior that I brought my wife to.  She has had certain personal issues that absolutely no doctor can figure out with her skin, but that's another story.  Anyway, he reminded me of my doctor.  He is very good and diagnosing problems, which made me come to the conclusion that alot of diagnosis, as in any profession, is common sense.  I will say this now and until the day I do, either you have it, or you don't, and there is no learning it.  If you can't figure things out very well, you shouldn't be doing things that play with people's lives.  Learning theories and science from books can't teach you common sense.  You can be the most book educated person in this world, but if you have absolutely no common sense, I'll be damned if you are going to touch me.  Like anything in life, there are the good, and the bad, and even though the good can be 99% of any certain thing, that 1% of the bad is what people usually look at and judge.  I try not to be this way in my life, but sometimes you can't help but think about it and wonder if there are more of the bad of something then you realize.  That being said, people can't be blamed for their paranoia when it is about things that have personally affected them.  I sure don't.  If anything happened to my wife because of malpractice, would I be paranoid as hell? I sure would.  I would never want to even look at another doctor, but I know that would be ignorant of me to think that way, but sometimes you can't help the way you feel.  That is the way the world is unfortunately.
 
Now, give me a drink or something.  I think I just slipped into a state of depression

Dear lord Mike still sees his pediatrician
 
 I was misdiagnosed and ended up spending 7 months in the hospital, lost my pancreas,spleen, Gallbladder, and one kidney becasue of it and had a lung collapse and my heart stop also.... so yes I am not too fond of Doctors, especially DO's. I did find out though that even the richest most stuck up Doctors bleed like the rest of us.....that was the best 9 hours in jail ever!!

Hey buddy, it's called a FAMILY PRACTITIONER Ior something like that) ok

Dude that really sucks.  I know that's not a very good sympathetic statement, how about this. "DAMN DID YOU BEAT HIS ASS GOOD BRO? YOU GO BOY WITH YOUR BAD SELF"

It's amazing I work for a lawfirm.  I guess that's why they love me, cuz I'm SO unpredictable (when I'm not sleeping)....
 
 

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ORIGINAL: Sugardaddy

First.  Dilo I'm very sad to hear about your father.  Everyone of my grandparents died as a result of a medical error.  Whether it was a misdiagnosis or just plain mistake.  My dad, who fortunately is still alive, was diagnosed with allegies and was being treated for over 1 year for allergies, until he started coughing up blood and they then realized that it was lung cancer.  Yes those stats are true and I'm personally quite ashamed.  However, one must also look at the other side.  How many people would have died without doctors.  Most of the rules and concepts that I practice today are significantly different than what I had learned in school.  Why?  The body didn't change, but our knowledge did.  I remember a professor stating in class one time that by the time we take the final exam, some of the info is already outdated!  The body is extremely complex.  I personally have 12 years of college and I only know a portion of what I specialize in let alone other areas.  We are only human, but we have come forth to do the very best that we can to try to help.  It takes a significant amount of time, money, stress, and long hours.  Believe me, no doc wants to injury or kill anyone, but at least we have the courage to step up to the plate and do our best to try to help.

 
And I thank you for that courage and dedication

sorry SD, didn't mean to generalize and say I hate all doctors...just the ones that mis-diagnose you, almost kill you, then pay off your lawyer so your 21 years old can never work again and can't collect any damages because of his corrupt azz.

The more you talk about it the more pissed I get at whoever your doctor and lawyer were.

I just posted this that someone sent to me
I did not mean no harm to it.
Sorry

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ORIGINAL: HummerGuy

The more you talk about it the more pissed I get at whoever your doctor and lawyer were.

 
Mike, you don't know the half of it!!  The lawyer has been dis-barred, But because my two year statute was up I couldn't go after the Doctor anymore, just the lawyer. But I guess the lawyer got a pretty good pay-off cause he left the country never to be heard from again. I had a P.I. try to track him down and found a trace of him in the caribbean but never could find him, and I couldn't afford to keep paying. The doctor did get fired from the practice he was at and has since opened his own down the street, amazingly it gets egged quite often....what can I say, I hold a grudge

IK, no way do I take offence to it.  Dilo's stats are true.  Actually I think that their higher.  I read in the JAMA mag once that the same amount of people die EVERYDAY from med errors as 2 fully loaded 747 jumbo jet crashes.  It's fuked up big time.  I take absolutely no offence what so ever and you most certainly need not apologize.  I did just have a patient of mine die.  It wasn't because of me though.  She was killed in an auto accident here in Pittsburgh.  The burgh guys may have heard it on the news.  She was the teenager that goes to CanonMac.  Bums me out.

Yeah Mark..See what you started?...LOL, it's cool by me buddy!

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ORIGINAL: Sugardaddy

First.  Dilo I'm very sad to hear about your father.  Everyone of my grandparents died as a result of a medical error.  Whether it was a misdiagnosis or just plain mistake.  My dad, who fortunately is still alive, was diagnosed with allegies and was being treated for over 1 year for allergies, until he started coughing up blood and they then realized that it was lung cancer.  Yes those stats are true and I'm personally quite ashamed.  However, one must also look at the other side.  How many people would have died without doctors.  Most of the rules and concepts that I practice today are significantly different than what I had learned in school.  Why?  The body didn't change, but our knowledge did.  I remember a professor stating in class one time that by the time we take the final exam, some of the info is already outdated!  The body is extremely complex.  I personally have 12 years of college and I only know a portion of what I specialize in let alone other areas.  We are only human, but we have come forth to do the very best that we can to try to help.  It takes a significant amount of time, money, stress, and long hours.  Believe me, no doc wants to injury or kill anyone, but at least we have the courage to step up to the plate and do our best to try to help.

 
Same thing happened with my Dad. He was DIAGNOSED with allergies because of all the headaches he was getting....Long story short...Brain Tumor!!! By the time they figured it out. he was riddled with cancer and passed away just over a year ago!!
 
My Mom was diagnosed with IBS(irritle bowel syndrome), then after 6 months of it getting worse, they said "OH...You Have Gallstones". While being in the hospital to get her gallbladder removed, they came to her room and said..."Geez, ya know, your gallbladder is fine, but you have in-operable PANCREATIC Cancer!!!" She passed away 4 months and a day before my Dad!!  FUKING DOCTORS!!! If they would have caught EITHER of these EARLIER......

I'm not saying that I'm better than other doctors.  Well maybe I am, but the point is that both my brother and I are physcians.  We both have had horrible things happen to our family because of either arrogance, lack of skill, or simply just they really don't care.  Both my brother and I have vowed to absolutely do our very best with every patient we have.  That person is someones mom, dad, sibling, or grandparent and people love them.  Patient's and their families are so vunerable in these situations.  We understand this.  I remember a story that my Paul, my bro, told me once about one of his patients.  She was an older lady who was terminal and really was only expected to live a few more hours.  She was conscious and aware.  Needless to say, she was very scared.  This women had no family around, so my brother sat with her holding her hand through the night until she passed.  See we both no what it's like to have this happen to us personally.    But then again that's how our parent's raised us. 

Now you are scaring me a little.  My wife has been getting headaches lately.  She usually gets them if she doesn't eat enough during the day, but every doctor says she is not Diabetic.  She takes Tylonol, and sometimes it work, sometimes it doesnt, more so it doesn't then it does.  If she eats something, it goes away, but not always.  When I read things like this, I think, man I need to take her in, but then again, I could be just paranoid.  She's just one of those people that just has to have enough food in them at all times or else she feels like crap.  The funny thing is she's only 5'1 and 115 lbs.  Anyway, my feeling is, it's better to be paranoid then have someone tell you "it's too late".  I'm still trying to decide whether it justifies having her go see somebody about it.

Mike you should make her get a MRI of the head

Yeah I keep telling her that.  She starts working again this week so once she has 3 meals a day in her I'm going to see if she still gets them.  If she does, I'm forcing her to go to the Doctor and get it scheduled.  It's just been one thing after another this past couple of months.  Hopefully it's nothing.

I wouldn't worry.  I get the same way as do many people I know.   Just last summer I personally developed severe migraines.  My neighbor at home is a neurosurgeon.  He checked me out and I'm fine.  In most cases these symptoms subside and are in fact benign.  With today's insurance without medical necessity, their not going to pay for an MR or CT.  My recommendation is for her to eat.  If it doesn't go away, then make an apt with your PCP.  One thing that I'm oppossed to is the use of meds to mask symptoms.  If there's a symptom there may be a problem.  Maybe her's is simply not eating.  See one does not have to be diabetic to have symptoms from a decreased blood glucose level.  If the sypmtoms persist, DO NOT simply allow them to medicate her.  When I'm hungry, I turn into even a bigger dik than I usually am!