My Dealer Said NO!

I went to my local dealer today to have my torsion bars turned in the front (just to level me out) and after keeping it for 3 hours, I got a call from the service guy saying they wouldn't do it! 

What?!? 

He said it was unsafe and GM has banned dealerships from doing it. 

What?!?

So I get down there and he hands me this 3 page booklet from GM straight off the printer, basicly stating turning of the bars compromises ride quality and affects center of gravity and safety, so it will no longer be avail as a service from the dealership.

WTF.....

So guy gave the 4 wheel alignment for free and didn't charge me anything.  ok, I guess that was cool, but what about my BARS! 

Anybody else been told this yet?

just do it yourself...it'll take you 5 minutes. GM prolly got sued from some idiot who had their keys turned then flipped while taking a turn at 70 mph. there is NO COMPROMISE IN RIDE QUALITY!!!

Who wants a vehicle that leans one way while sitting still, it just looks like something is wrong.  An easy fix is never fill the gas tank all the way...

torsioning the bars makes the car lean?

no, he means the car leans from the factory...you can straighten it by turnng the keys

My 06 H3 was leanig to the driver's side, on;y when the gas tank was full. Now my 07 H3 is perfect, so somewhere GM figurred out how to get the Hummers level, either that or I just got lucky the second time around.

I fixed my lean with the torsion bars.  I took a yard stick and uses various references on the body to level it out and fix the lean, WITH the gas tank full
 
But Trey, I had the same issue.  It seemed to have resolved itself once I raised it up a bit.

I adjusted the torsion bars on mine like 3 weeks ago. Mine was leaning to the left. Once it hits 500 miles I'll take it in for an alignment.

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ORIGINAL: gmpartsdude

I adjusted the torsion bars on mine like 3 weeks ago. Mine was leaning to the left. Once it hits 500 miles I'll take it in for an alignment.

 
You may want to take it sooner than that.  Most on here suggested taking it soon as possible when I did mine.

How bad does adjusting the torsion bars affect the mpg?

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ORIGINAL: Bennersj

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ORIGINAL: gmpartsdude

I adjusted the torsion bars on mine like 3 weeks ago. Mine was leaning to the left. Once it hits 500 miles I'll take it in for an alignment.

You may want to take it sooner than that.  Most on here suggested taking it soon as possible when I did mine.

 
Yes, I would want to do it right away, but dealers aren't allowed to ok an alignment on a new vehicle until it hits 500 miles. I work at a dealer and know the rules, unfortunately, lol.

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ORIGINAL: hummer

How bad does adjusting the torsion bars affect the mpg?

 
It depends on how you adjusted them and what for. I adjusted mine because it was leaning left to right. It is now even, left to right, however it is still lower in the front than in the back.
 
If you adjust it to where the front is even with the back, it takes some downforce away and you will lose a couple of MPG.

I have dealers not want to change lots of things from factory specs. They will reset stuff to what the manual says they should be even if it doesn't work as well. Do it yourself and don't worry about it.

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ORIGINAL: hummer

How bad does adjusting the torsion bars affect the mpg?

It depends on how you adjusted them and what for. I adjusted mine because it was leaning left to right. It is now even, left to right, however it is still lower in the front than in the back.

If you adjust it to where the front is even with the back, it takes some downforce away and you will lose a couple of MPG.

Thanks! i was thinking about just raising it up a little, but i dont know if i want to

Thanks guys.  I'll check out the other threads for assistance on doing it myself.  Appreciate it...

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ORIGINAL: gmpartsdude
Yes, I would want to do it right away, but dealers aren't allowed to ok an alignment on a new vehicle until it hits 500 miles. I work at a dealer and know the rules, unfortunately, lol.

Strange, I had mine adjusted at 200 miles, it was pulling to the left at delivery.

My dealer said the same thing. I had the Bilstein/Cognito front leveling shocks to install when they adjusted the torsion bars but they said absolutely not so I'm going to do it myself. This might be of some help: http://www.hummerforums.com/m_85049/tm.htm
 
These sites here were passed along to me by rhill20 so I will pass them along to you.
http://www.hummerforums.com/m_64391/tm.htm
http://www.hummerforums.com/m_2595/tm.htm
http://www.hummerforums.com/m_85401/tm.htm
 
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My dealer had no problem with it! I leveled mine out and ended up taking it back down about 1/4", not sure if it did anything or not. It almost looked like I was going to go desert running with it leveled totally. Aren't many of those in Ohio
 
 
THINK PINK WHEN YOU VOTE FOR ROTMTIME IS RUNNING OUT!
http://www.hummerforums.com/m_121425/mpage_7/tm.htm

Yes but Rhill, with global warming all of Ohio will soon be desert and you will be prepared.

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ORIGINAL: SculptorMJM

Thanks guys.  I'll check out the other threads for assistance on doing it myself.  Appreciate it...

 
Seriously dude... if you are smart enough to lay a bead... you can adjust your own torsion bars...  I promise you.

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ORIGINAL: 3hummers

Yes but Rhill, with global warming all of Ohio will soon be desert and you will be prepared.

 
I just love the desert and I live in Western New York, only 3 hours away from Ohio!!! Yahoo!   Where's my sunblock?

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ORIGINAL: Muddydawg75

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ORIGINAL: SculptorMJM

Thanks guys.  I'll check out the other threads for assistance on doing it myself.  Appreciate it...

Seriously dude... if you are smart enough to lay a bead... you can adjust your own torsion bars...  I promise you.  BTW, I think you have the coolest H3 I have ever seen.  Even better then my own!

Gee thanks Muddy.  What a nice compliment.  Your a great guy.....   

Well I had the torsion bars adjusted today and could not believe how easy it was! I also replaced the front shocks with the Bilstein/Cognito leveling shocks and the truck looks great. BUT I had to adjust the drivers side one turn more then the passenger side because it was that much off! Now the truck is perfectly level side to side and one inch higher in the front then it was when I started. I'm going to drive it for a few days and then get a front end alignment.
 
I also installed the Hummer mudflaps that make a world of difference especially with the larger tires.
 
Next are the KC Slimlites for the brush guard, Rockrails & ...........