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hummer
1/5/2008 12:28:12 PM
I really have not noticed it wheen i hit the brakes, but when i hit the hazard light button the headlights & the interior lights dim
gmpartsdude
1/5/2008 3:46:45 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: TheGunnyRet

What does the miles have to do with it? I would have checked it when you picked up your H3.
Anyway, if it does it intermitently IT IS STILL A PROBLEM!

 
I'm not sure what you mean by that. I have 100 miles on it and all of that was during the day. I simply stated I needed more time/milage to let someone know whether or not I have the problem.
 
 
TheGunnyRet
1/6/2008 12:05:43 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: hummer

I really have not noticed it wheen i hit the brakes, but when i hit the hazard light button the headlights & the interior lights dim

 
 
Does any of your other vehicles do that?
solarflare
1/6/2008 4:57:37 AM
There's a TSB for this problem.......it's:

020603008
gmpartsdude
1/6/2008 9:49:50 AM




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Document ID# 1978376
2008 HUMMER H3

   








Subject:
Low Voltage Display on IP Gauge, Lights Dim at Stop Lights, Battery Discharged, No Start, Slow Cranking, Dim Lights at Idle, Low Generator Output #02-06-03-008C - (05/30/2007)





Models:
1990-2008 Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks (including Saturn)





2003-2008 HUMMER H2, H3





2005-2008 Saab 9-7X





This bulletin is being revised to add the 2008 model year. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-06-03-008B (Section 06 -- Engine).



Any vehicle may have a low voltage display (if equipped with gauges), lights that dim at stop lights, slow cranking, no start, low generator output at idle or dim lights at idle when electrical loads are heavy at idle or under slow driving or infrequent usage conditions. These characteristics may be more noticeable with customer added electrical accessories, or with a discharged battery. These are normal operating characteristics of a vehicle electrical system and no repairs should be attempted unless a proven fault has been diagnosed.
During normal driving conditions, when engine speed is above 1000 RPM, the generator is designed to do two things:




    • 
Supply the current necessary to operate the vehicle's originally equipped electrical devices (loads).




    • 
Recharge/ maintain the battery's state of charge.
The following factors may affect generator and battery performance:




    • 
Non-usage of the vehicle for extended periods of time. The vehicle's computers, clocks and the like will cause the battery state of charge to drop (For example; 30 days in a parking lot and the vehicle may not start because of a dead battery or a vehicle which is driven only a short distance once a week may end up with a discharged battery to the point where the vehicle may not start). This would be considered abnormal usage of the vehicle and the normally expected result for the vehicle battery, generator and electrical systems.




    • 
At idle, vehicle electrical loads may exceed the low speed current (amperage) output of the generator and when this happens the shortfall comes from the battery. This will result in a drop in the electrical system voltage as the battery delivers the additional electrical current to meet the demand. This is equivalent to the brown outs experienced by homes and businesses when the electrical demand is more than the supply. See Figure 1.




    • 
Extended periods of engine idling, with high electrical loads, may result in a discharged battery. Attempting to recharge a battery by letting the engine run at idle may not be beneficial unless all electrical loads are turned "OFF".




    • 
Increased internal generator temperatures from extended idling can also contribute to lower electrical system voltage. As the generator's internal temperature rises, the generator's output capability is reduced due to increased electrical resistance.
The following are some typical examples of electrical loads:




System

Amperage Load


Rear Window defogger

25


Electric AIR Pump

25


Heated Seats

5 Amps per seat


Headlamps (high)

20


Blower Motor (High)

20


Headlamps (low)
hummer
1/6/2008 10:27:27 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: TheGunnyRet

quote:

ORIGINAL: hummer

I really have not noticed it wheen i hit the brakes, but when i hit the hazard light button the headlights & the interior lights dim



Does any of your other vehicles do that?
I dont think they do, but if they do i have never noticed it
vilim12
1/6/2008 5:45:35 PM
sounds wierd like the car has a weak battery
TheGunnyRet
1/6/2008 9:49:26 PM
  Thanks gmpartsdude  
 
Apparently the Alternator and or Battery are underrated to handle the electrical load designed into the vehicle according to the accessory list during normal operation. Also it seems to indicate the voltage regulatation of the charging cycle below 700 rpm is inadequate. How dumb was that or actually how cheap can you get, minimalists. No wonder we see all these Battery problems because the Battery is being cycled more often within a small voltage range. So this cycle is on and off more frequently causing spikes there buckling the plates, causing dead cells and a myriad of electricl faults.
 
AND YOU ALL THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY  
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