Head and Valve Issue - Page 3

I just saw a Herb Chambers Hummer ad in the paper this weekend. I've never done business with them, but it's good to have more choices.

Dobles service dept is great IMO. I didn't love my Sales experience, but the service guys have been good.

-Alan

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....So I think you have nothing to worry about now anymore.

I still have big worries about my H3... like what kind of iPod adapter to get, whether I should put roof lights on it, etc. LOL!

Luckily I have all you on this forum to help with the tough decisions.

-Alan

Roof light are a hard call if you want to start drilling holes in you new truck. I heard the driving one just shine on you hood if so go with the cab lights.

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ORIGINAL: dilo2001gt

Roof light are a hard call if you want to start drilling holes in you new truck. I heard the driving one just shine on you hood if so go with the cab lights.

I heard that too. I will probably look at the cab lights.

-Alan

I am now at 19,000 mile and my rig is back in for another head and valve job. The first was at around 6k. I was told that they redisigned the head and valves and that I should not have a problem again. Well now at 19k the exact same issue has cropt up. Now i am being told that a mistake was made and that i recieved the same head and valve and this is the reason it's back. My question to anyone who is listening is. for one thing if their is a redesigned head why isn't their a bulletin on this. It seems only my service manager knows that it has been redesigned because not one person from GM has seen any evidence of that and if it is such a freak event then why redisign the parts. obviuosly it is not a localized problem or a build date problem. GM owes me an upfront explanation.

Dennis, Can you let me know if there is a redesign on this and if so isn't that saying that they have a defective part in this vehicle. I'm just trying to sift thru all the BS that may be going on here. Is GM afraid of what this could turn into if it goes to a recall. Hopefully they step up once again and buy the vehicle back. They worked with me on the previous repair and extended my warranty. But this is a whole other issue. I have no faith in driving this vehicle any great distance.

Hi Btstyx,

I'm sorry you're having this trouble..And I will say that it is a fluke that you're having the same problem again...Having said that, it doesn't surprise me that they installed or improperly install the new head at 6000 miles and it went this long...Some dealerships are pretty incompetent...But no, GM does recognize that a handfull by comparision to the number sold, have been fitted with a faulty head... they are giving extended warranties on the fixes..did you get one?

Anyway, it doesn't qualify for a RECALL by definiton of what a national RECALL is all about..It must be a safety issue that puts you the owner in certain peril, risking injury or death..then a Recall is mandated.

So I hope you're all fixed up now and I'm sure you are..So don't worry about it, enjoy it.

BTSTYX:

I still lurk here from time to time...but I turned in my H3 in August for this exact reason...I too had the engine problem at 6,000 miles and then again at 11,000 miles....GM sent the "old" parts to fix the problem so that they could get me back on the road but they "knew" that this was going to happen again - they didn't tell the dealer this when the dealer fixed the problem the first time...but GM knew that these were the old parts. They sent the old parts back because they didn't have the new parts...so it was a temporary fix only. Only thing is, they failed to tell the customer this fact.

I too lost all faith and confidence in GM and the Hummer - so the day they confirmed it was the same issue and the day I found out that GM had pulled a fast one on me, I told them they could keep the vehicle and I cut my losses and traded the vehicle in for a NON GM product. I wouldn't buy another GM product if you paid ME to buy the vehicle. Not worth the headaches. It isn't just the Hummer either - I can assure you.

Good Luck to you - I know how it feels and it sucks,
(former) H3gal

Hi Dennis, I just hate the run around. I was told that at 6k new head design and i should not have a problem. Now this time around told OOPS GM made a mistake and put on the old style. I think It's rather amusing to watch the backpeddling that is going on. I do think the problem is more than a freak thing or a bad batch of heads. How else can you explain a replacement coming from the same batch. I'll tell you right now that I have been in contact with five other people with exact same issue. The fifth being a guy ahead of me in the rental car line that the head and valves went at 30k. I don't know the total from my dealership alone but at the time of the first repair they were up to 16. Not to mention the people on this forum and others around the country with the same issue. Ultimately the responsability lies with GM to make things right and the only way to make it right with me is to buy back the vehicle. If it is so rare they should have no issue with this.

I purchased my 2006 H3 Oct 2005. Since then, it has been in the shop 12xs- for "Head and Cylinder" issues. I've had 2 head replacements already and its in the shop as I speak for possibly the 3rd head replacement. I am pursuing arbitration but already have a case with an attorney. Up to now I thought that I just had a "lemon" but as I continue to read these forums I realize its not just my vehicle and could possibly have a "class action" here. If anyone has anymore information,complaints,etc. Please email me
m_roper@bellsouth.net. Thanks

HELLO,
JUST GOT THE ROTTEN NEWS THAT MY HUMMER WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE CYLINDER HEAD CHANGED BECAUSE IT MISFIRED, MAN I'M SO DISAPPOINTED, I DID READ THE INFO TO CALL HUMMER, AND I DID AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GET BACK TO ME ABOUT THIS ON TUES WITH THE WARRANTY AND ALL. I HOPE THEY CAN MAKE IT RIGHT. I REALLY THINK GM KNEW ABOUT THIS PROBLEM ALONG TIME AGO, I WISH I HAD KNOWN. I TRADED A TRAIL BLAZER IN ON IT THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE 4X4. I GOT TIRED OF THAT REAL QUICK. I THOUGHT IT WAS RUNNING ALITTLE ROUGH THEN THE ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON, THEN THEY TOWED IT AND NOW I CAN JUST WAIT, THE DEALERSHIPS SAID THEY WOULD HAVE THE PARTS ON TUESDAY, I SURE HOPE THEY GET IT DONE BEFORE THE 1ST BIG SNOW.

Tuesday?,,,That's pretty quick...some here have had to wait two and three weeks on the parts...GM must be getting their Sh!t together now on this issue..Good luck and let us know how it turns out and see if you can get a detailed repair worksheet.

Not sure if I am doing this right as I just joined I stumbled across this forum while doing some research on head/valve probs in the H3. Add me to the list of H3 "head cases!" Let me start off with I LOVE MY little Hummer! I have had her almost 6 mos and approx. 6K miles on her and she has run great....UNTIL.... I drove her 2000K miles to the mountains a few days ago and about halfway there, she began to run very jerky and roughly when idling. Ran fine while driving tho, and no idiot lights ever came on. Coincidentally this all happened around the same time I receive my OnStar email report which said "Emissions issue." I was in the middle of nowhere up in the mountains and she got me around and back home safely again!

Much to my dismay - today the dealership tells me, "cylinder head" probs and at least a week to fix! I suppose I should consider myself lucky after reading several posts that said weeks without for others. I cannot get too upset with them, as they offered me a car and it is under warranty...BUT!!! This is a bunch of you know what to happen to a nearly new vehicle! Now, my question is this - will they replace the parts with more parts that will go bad?? Or is this an issue that they have found and corrected or improved??? Any words of wisdom or added experiences from anyone for after the fact?

Hi Wyfie,

From what I've been hearing lately, is that GM is suppliing the dealers with customers with this problem, a brand new and improved head...I agree it does seem ridiculous that these engines ever stayed on the assembly line and one has to ask about QC..How did they mix up putting soft valve seats in an engine that uses unleaded?..Hardened Valve seats are for unleaded engines...Somebody screwed up big time.

I hope if mine is going to develop this problem..it happens sooner and not later...Plus I have all the confidence in my dealer to fix it right if it does happen..But I will be also be insisting on an extended warranty, at least for the engine.

Hi there Dennis!

WOW, guess I should have read all the posts before I posted to begin with. (I was too lazy to read 4 pages worth LOL) I have just finished reading them all and must say I am feeling rather uneasy at this point. I have loved her so much up til now. I must say she did take those narrow winding gravel/mud mountain roads with great ease and never once did I have to throw her into low!

BTW, I was told there are 5 H3's sittin in line ahead of me for repair! I guess this is just an issue that only time will tell..I for sure will try for an extended warranty now! We will see how the dealership is about being timely and precise in repairs and getting my gal back to me.

So..Are you a lawyer or a wife of an attorney?..If yes, that could be an advantage.

Neither!

Okay..just guessing, going by your user name

LOL OK...You were close but no cigar...

Hey, Let's leave Bill Clinton out of this and Monica too...You ain't Monica, are you?

HAHAHA! Funny you should mention that! Does the pic below answer that question? LOL..No, Im not Monica, but I have been known to smoke a good cigar on occasion


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And one last thing Mr. Administrator Denny or Mr. Moderator or whomever...is there any way these 2 threads about the valve/head issues can be combined, since the posters seem to be pretty much the same people and the issue is the same - so that no one misses anything and we don't have to go to 2 separate threads??? Purty Please?

My kinda girl...

Hey, I can not merge two threads..butt I did the next best thing and stuck them on top for a while until this issue blows over (no pun intended)

Ahhh thank you!

See my experience on class action suits on the other Head and Valve thread. It there is a problem with the H3 and with all the H3 websites and the net the truth will come out in a powerful way. When I read about a class action suit on my Ford there were no web or net but today i think manufacturers can not get away with defective products as long as they use to. I was surprised how easy it is to join a class action suit and they really work. I could not believe I got a check in the mail one. Read the post about that and my Toyota defective head design in my FJ40.

Aargh! This weekend the head situation came again on my H3! 

The truck is now at the dealers -- again -- to get this fixed. I assume they are repacing the head again. This time they have the parts in stock, so they expect to finish by Thursday. I called GM and opened another case. I have to say -- I have lost faith in this vehicle. I love the H3, but I need something I can depend on.

-Alan