UPDATE: Front-end Rattle...Any Suggestions? - Page 3

Thought I would comment on the sterring column issue on my '06 H3, I picked up my H3 today from having it's first oil change, check out the steering gas/brake pedal noise issue (even know it seems to be most prevelant in the '07's but I was definitely feeling it in my '06, and replace my battery because the battery went dead after sitting for more than 24hrs.  Keep in mind I just bought it, less than 3K miles.  They said they did also feel the vibrations and they replaced the lower steering column which resolved the issue...for now.  As I've read most of the other posts here, it's only temporary, but oh well.  They did it while getting some other items addressed so we'll see I guess.  BUT it's gotta go back in the shop now after driving it 3 miles, when I turn the car off, take the key out, open the door, the radio doesn't shut off, I have to reach over and open the pass. side door to shut it off.  Back in the shop.  This vehicle has been in the shop now longer than I've had it on the road.  Blown actuator motor, transfer case, dead battery, TPM issues, re-occurance of serv. stab errors, steering colum issues, and now electrical problems.  Ugh...I'm starting to have a bad feeling.  Love the car, love how it looks and handles, getting almost 20 mpg, got a smokin deal on it, but the quality is really starting to worry me.   

Oh I forgot to add that they also said the had to remove my Inilex GPS tracking system b/c it was causing a negative drain on my battery.  *sigh*.  I actually used that, paid for it in the cost of the vehicle, and paid monthly for it.  So..at that point I called the Service Manager and he's going to look into all this and get back to me.  I am going to call Hummer today and start a file and have everything documented of all my issues.  I recommend this for everyone, my step-father is the service manager at the hummer dealership in Indy and he said to do this.

dude, w/ all of those problems, maybe you should start pushing for a replacement.  that's lemon-like.  i'm literally one more b.s. problem away from doing that myself, and i haven't had nearly the # of problems you have had...but possibly more severe (i.e. bolt lodged in the valve of cylinder #3).  i just don't understand how reliability can be an issue on a vehicle this expensive.  why skate on the easy sh!t?  you can't tell me they didnt know about the steering shaft before they released for sale.  so it takes an extra 5 days per vehicle to tighten the nuts a little tighter or the wiring a little snugger.  so frustrating!!!  i guess they're just banking on the beginning of that 5th year when the warranties run out.  start investing in GM b/c their stock is going to sky-rocket come 2010-11.  ha!
 
good luck...
 
lil d

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ORIGINAL: iflyswa

Oh I forgot to add that they also said the had to remove my Inilex GPS tracking system b/c it was causing a negative drain on my battery. 

When I picked up my new H3 it came with a bad battery. It sounds like yours is going bad. Per the service technician, the Inilex has a separate battery that feeds off of the main battery. If the Inilex battery needs charging, it pulls from the main battery. If your main battery is weak then you will truly have a battery drain and your H3 won't start.

I have the Inilex in my H3 (don't use it, didn't pay for it) and since my battery replacement it has not been an issue. And are they pulling the Inilex from every Hummer that they installed it in? Why would yours be different?

Since you're in PHX-did you buy from Lund or Legends? Lund was where I got my H3 and they take good care of me with their service.

I don't think they are pulling the Iniliex from every hummer, but after talking to the Service Director they are disconnecting it on certain H3's that are causing a drain on the battery, and reimburing the customer the $1695 they charge for it that was included in the vehicle.  I do believe that if they hook it back up, with the new battery they put it now, it won't be a problem.  I am going to take it back in to fix the door problem and put the inilex back in, or tell them to reimburse me.  I believe with the Inilex in, it was pulling 153 amps and when disconnecting it, only 53 amps were being pulled from the battery.
 
I bought from Kachina Caddilac/Hummer/Saab on Scottsdale Rd., who I think owns Lund.  They have always been good to me sales and service, no complaints there, just the frustration with all the problems with the new vehicle, not their fault.

i know this is getting off-topic, but wanted to update on what alrock and I were talking about.  Dealership called and they are going to install a new upgraded version of the Inilex pod that doesn't drain off the battery as much, and fix the door sensor issue on Thurs.
 
With regards to the lower steering column rattling issue.  I will have to say that I am no longer getting the weird vibrations/clicking noise in my brake and gas pedal anymore after the replacement.  It was probably upwards of 115 degrees here and I live 45 miles from my work, and no vibrations.   I will say thought that I notice a sort of clunking or rattling when I go over big bumps/potholes, etc.. but feel nothing in steering wheel, or pedals, just audible noise.  Oh well...  Win some, lose some, I guess.  It just sounds "cheap", ya know?  Also there is more "play" in the steering wheel when driving straight now. 

I have my h3 with 380 miles , I was stuck in traffic this afternoon for a little over an hour in temperature of 102 degrees with my AC going all the time. I began to experience the same problem . I felt a thump on the brake pedal everytime I put pressure. I will call H3 dealer on July 5th 2007
 

sorry to hear it, but welcome to the club...

I am so glad I found this.  I've had this problem for about 2 months now.  I've taken my 2007 H3 to the dealer twice for this problem.  They keep telling me the noise is because I had nerf bars installed.  I live in Yuma AZ it gets pretty darn hot here it was 117 today.  So if this problem gets worst when it's hot no wonder I hear the rattle noise VERY ofter.  It's pretty upsetting to have a 2007 car making all that noise.  I am going to print all the messages and take them to the dealer tomorrow. 
 
Thank you

my sales guy put me in a brand new 07 h3 w/ 300 miles on it while mine is getting the upgraded inilex, and I have to tell you that that steering wheel/brake/gas pedals rattles and shakes LIKE CRAZY.  Drove me nuts just driving it around yesterday and today.  Mine was never that bad.  I mean its unbearable, they need to do something about that problem.  The thing is brand-spakin-new.  Even my wife said while driving it said it's bugging the Sh** out of her.  He called me this morning and said he's going to run out to my work with a Cad. CTS and swap me for the H3 b/c they just sold it.  I was like..hey you might want to have them check out the steering issue, you'll know when you start driving it, and the Serv TPM lights I was getting on it.   Geez....
 
I have to say that I still love my H3.  I fell in love with the H3's as soon as they came out.  It's a great looking car. 

Just keep in mind, all of these problems you guys are experiencing are NOT normal.  Most of us have had flawless H3's.  There is a anti-lemon law out there.  I would definitely investigate it.  There are always going to be lemons in a batch of cars.  Unfortunately, someone out there inevitably will get stuck with one.  It's unfortunate you guys seems to be the ones, but all you can do is hope your dealers are understanding and willing to work with you.  As we have all heard stories on here, some dealers can be real dikheads (excuse me ).  I am very grateful the 3 I go to are all great as far as customer service (Weil Hummer, Naperville Hummer, and Schepel Hummer). 
 
Now, knowing what I know NOW, that I have mentioned this loose drive shaft the last 3 times and have been told it was normal, I may revisit my whole issue where my manual transmission/clutch is very rough while driving at low RPMS when accelerating and decelerating, even though it used to be smooth and is marketted as a smooth-shifting manual tranny.  That's another issue.  Hopefully after finding this one, they'll magically "find" my issue. 
 
It's unfortunate that you have to suffer until it's  discovered there is a problem.
 
So what is this nav system you guys are talking about? Is that the official H3 navigation system they install from the dealer? Why does it require a second battery? I have my Tom Tom Go 300 hardwired into the H3 where it comes on and off with the ignition and I never have a problem with battery drainage.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the problems I have would warrant investigating an anti-lemmon law by any stretch of the imagination.  My problems have been pretty minor compared to others, and are in line with problems that people have with any new car, any make, and model.  And I don't think that I have a "bad apple" either, but I would say that I have had more issues with a brand new car than I would like to have had. 
 
Fortunately for me, my dealer has been AWESOME.  I cannot even think of anything they could do more for me than what they have already done.  That has been a HUGE relief, and help.
 
Got it back yesterday, and probably put 200 miles on it in 24 hrs..  Working great!
 
About the Inilex, its a Nav system underneath the car that is, as far as I know, an add-on you can pay for (GPS Navigation $1695 on the window sticker as an add-on option), but my dealer threw it in for free.  It runs on it's own separate battery since it's an always on live system, even when the car is off so it will not drain the main battery, as in my case before (the upgraded version has a new type of battery of it's own).  All it really does is allow you to track your vehicle, locate it, follow it, setup a geo-fence, MPH restrictions, when it starts, when the unit is disconnected, etc..etc..  I log into their website, you can check it out at  (www.inilex.com) and do it all from there.  If any triggers you setup are set-off it will alert you on your cell and email you.  I'm not sure what the criteria is for what vehicles it's on, what dealers use it, and how's its distributed.  I talked to my step-father who is the service mgr. at Indy Hummer and he has never heard of it, so I don't know if it's a west coast thing, or what.  I know some dealers use it for lot management.
 
Cheers.  Have a great weekend.       

hi  - my h3  just  ht 1600 miles and  it was  100 deg today and I did a lot  of driving this  weekdn.thought it was the  brks  at first   becuse  of the  city  stop and  go traffic  but  then  the noise  was  just like  you described.  I have to take  to dealer  becasue  my  serv tmp  went on  3 times  and  I cked   tire pressure  i hve  43 psi..  factory  wheeels  i think  43 psi  is  high???  on the insde of my door i thnk it was  35 psi?
 
 
how  do I or what  do  I tel the  dealer  for the noise probelm...? if  i  cant  get  to  dealer this  week will i be oky?

I thought you had overheating problems..

sgt940--if you think you have the same problem then point your dealer to this topic in the forum. If you read through this thread it looks like dealers aren't going to have a solution until mid to late July. I've been running with this problem for over two months and 6000 miles and am waiting for the dealer to be ready to address it. As to tire pressure, you'll get a much quicker answer on the inside of your door panel, like you said, than waiting for us to get you an answer.

I have to say your posts are a bit hard to read because of the spelling. Google's toolbar has a spell check that can help you with spelling. You don't have to be an ace at spelling but it would certainly make your posts easier to understand--and you'll get better replies for it.

same problem here. noticed it after free wash at sewell this weekend.  its going in today for the trailer hitch install and they are going to look at this too

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 I talked to my step-father who is the service mgr. at Indy Hummer and he has never heard of it, so I don't know if it's a west coast thing, or what.  I know some dealers use it for lot management.
    

 
When you say Indy Hummer, do you mean a dealership in Indiana or is that just the name of it? Just curious since I'm not far from Indiana.

The Hummer dealership I do business with (Houston, Tx) is well aware of this particular problem.  I'm now officially on a waiting list for a part replacement/problem correction, etc.  I also have to add that the ratle noise/feeling on the pedals is a real pain in the *(&(^^6.   Waiting for a resolution of the problem is painful .....I still however, LOVE my 07' H3 .......

Indy Hummer, as in Lockhart Hummer in Indianapolis, IN.  http://www.lockharthummer.com

Ah ok.  The Badlands off-road park we are going to on August 4th isn't too far away from Indianapolis. 

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ORIGINAL: H3PR

The Hummer dealership I do business with (Houston, Tx) is well aware of this particular problem.  I'm now officially on a waiting list for a part replacement/problem correction, etc.  I also have to add that the ratle noise/feeling on the pedals is a real pain in the *(&(^^6.   Waiting for a resolution of the problem is painful .....I still however, LOVE my 07' H3 .......

H3PR,   I'm in Houston as well...  what dealer do you do business with?    I need to get on a list as well.

Thanks,
Manford

I am in West Houston and would love to know which dealer you use too....Just curious....any recommendations or warnings regarding any particular Houston dealer?  Just want to know what I have to look foward to...Seems like quite a few on this forum rave about their dealer, but I have heard nothing about any Houston area dealer....hey, my next search

I submitted an online service request with McGinnis Hummer, but I actually made my H3 purchase via McGinnis Cadallac.   Don from the service department just called and I missed the call.   I'll be calling him back shortly to pick his brain on the issue, see if he is familiar with the situation.  I'll let you know how it goes.

Manford


UPDATE:

After 2 more phone calls and finally calling my cellphone, Don was able to reach me.   Kudos to Don for the effort he took to get back in touch with me in response to my service request!

I had mentioned in the request that I was experiencing a "front-end-rattle", and to this Don basically responded with the topic of this forum... and all I had to do was state "yes, that is my issue EXACTLY".

He mentioned that GM Engineering has issued a bullitin regarding the issue, and that a replacement part is being designed and tested right now.  (which we already knew about).   The temporary/interim solution is to service the H3 and replace the lower steering column, which Don stated has solved the issue for every H3 they have serviced except for one.   He also mentioned that he was not sure if the temp replacement would be a permenant fix, or if the same issue would occur again.   This seems like a rational disclaimer in my mind, and I agree with him, and that only time and mileage could tell us for sure.   He informed me that this issue was not a safety hazard, and that nothing is going to "fall apart" while driving down the road.

I have a service appointment setup for Mon. 23rd, and McGinnis will be setting me up with a loaner car for the "one-day" turn-around time.   Don said that they have done so many of these repairs already that they are very familiar with the procedure and have become very fast at the swap.    Nice to know!

So far no complaints about the service from McGinnis, they have been great.  I'm glad GM has acknowledged the issue and is working to not only temporarily fix it, but also looking for a new part to eliminate the problem.

I'll post more as the events play out.

Manford

they replaced ours with the current version and so far i guess it has helped.  the wife hasnt complained but i know it could happen again.  the turn around time is quick (same day if you take it early enough).  they replaced that, installed the trailer hitch and homelink and washed it in about 5-6hrs for us (sewell in dallas)

from my experience w/ the old-design replacement, it was temporary relief, but all-in-all nothing changed.  sewell gave me the same maybe/maybe not disclaimer that you got from mcginnis.  as long as their aware of it and are willing to take action, i'm cool with it.  to those debating the same solution, i'd just wait for the redesign.  its not worth the hassle to gain zero ground.  i just cant wait to get an update from the first person on here to get the redesign.  hopefully, gm didnt push this out of country like their engine assembly.  i hate to find a random bolt where it shouldnt be (sorry, venting from another post).
 
lil d