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bmbenear
1/8/2007 9:27:09 AM
Well, last week to took my 2007 H3 Adventure in and had a suspension shop try to level it up using torsion bar adjust only. In order for them to get the front within about a 1/4" of the rear they had to run the adjusting nut all the way up and then backed off about a 1/2 turn. Looks great but rides like a lumber wagon. My suspension guys tells me there's a new front end lift kit coming out in a couple of weeks for the H3 made by Ready Lift. Supposed the be comparible to the Truxx Kit but less expensive. Do you guys think the kit with the different keys and shock extensions will soften the ride a bit?
Gunner_45
1/8/2007 9:55:49 AM
FYI:
I just had mine leveled as well and love the new stance but hate the pot-hole/speed bump jounce. Other than that
issue, it feels just the same as before if not better. I just ordered some new shocks from Cognito Motorsports that
are made just for torsion bar lifted H3's. If they make it in and I can get them installed before I have to go back to
work on Wednesday I'll let you know how effective they are.The cost of the shocks is still less than the Ready Lift
and you wont have to do a second front end alignment. If you can wait a couple of days to see if  theses new shocks
cure my rough ride, then perhaps you wont have to spend more money to re-do what you have already done.
 
BTW: I spoke to one of the guys at Ready Lift some time ago, and he said the kit would come in around $250.
Unlike the Truxxx kit ($400+) , these keys are forged instead of welded together and the shock extensions are top mount instead of bottom.
 
Tomatoes, tomatos, Potatoes, patatos............Whick kit is best.
 
 
dilo2001gt
1/8/2007 11:13:22 AM
This company sells  BILSTEIN SHOCKS for the two in lift that's what i bought.
I already had the new keys
 

 
Danny Cramer
CCM  Offroad Products Inc.
805-464-0505
Gunner_45
1/8/2007 11:25:05 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: dilo2001gt

This company sells  BILSTEIN SHOCKS for the two in lift that's what i bought.
I already had the new keys

 
If you were starting from scratch, would you go with the keys again or just the crank and shocks?

 
Also, how do you like the shocks and how big a difference did they make?
bmbenear
1/8/2007 12:04:58 PM
Let me know if the shocks work. I rather spend the money on other upgrades. Thanks.
MarkM
1/8/2007 1:03:20 PM
Hey BMBEBENEAR,
 
Careful on cranking the T-bars all the way up. I've heard some folks that did that and busted halfshafts from too much turn. Not not sure if the two are related but these people went through two halfshafts before dealer noticed the T-Bars cranked all the way up.
 
I havent hear any news on those leveling kits they sold on ebay or if they are any good or not. I'd be curious to see this new Ready Lift you are talking about. Website?
importkiller
1/8/2007 2:07:37 PM
Mark, I don't think cranking the t-bars can have any worse effect on the half shafts than the re-indexed key's (like a truxx lift) The both keep the diff in it's original postion so the angles will be changed the same amount no matter what method is used to do it. Only difference between the two is cranking the t-bars puts more resistance into the t-bar and may make it settle quicker, than if left stock.  Never-mind, I see now where you said cranking all the way....my bad
 
original poster--- I can't imagine why they would have had to crank your t-bars to the max.....this is putting your front end even higher than with the truxx lift...you sure they did it on a level ground? Your ride will blow with that much crank on the t-bars mainly cause you will be on the bumpstop and your shocks are probably close to maxxed out.
bmbenear
1/8/2007 2:40:43 PM
I put a level under the frame, its level front to back on level ground. The guy at the frame shop says he lifted both sides to the max backed off about a half turn then lowered one side a bit more to level left to right. I looked under vehicle and it looks like the swing arms are about an inch from touching bumpers. Think I should back off torsion bars a turn or two?
MarkM
1/8/2007 3:03:08 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: BMBEBENEAR

I put a level under the frame, its level front to back on level ground. The guy at the frame shop says he lifted both sides to the max backed off about a half turn then lowered one side a bit more to level left to right. I looked under vehicle and it looks like the swing arms are about an inch from touching bumpers. Think I should back off torsion bars a turn or two?

 
I did two turns from stock settings. Rides great, and I havent had any problems wheelin either. I'm not saying you'll have problems with the settings you have now, but i did hear folks busting halfshafts and all they did different was torque the t-bars all the way. A lot of folks here are more knowledgeable in wheelin and what not then me. Maybe they can chime in with their opinions.
 
Two turns will raise the front a bit, however, my ride still isn’t level but I’ve learned to deal with it.
 
 
dilo2001gt
1/8/2007 4:04:07 PM
I had the new keys installed for over a year now no problems.
The shocks are great they make up the 2in  The truxx kit gives you a adapter for you shock no to sure how sturdy that is.
importkiller
1/8/2007 4:25:29 PM
MarkM
1/8/2007 4:58:07 PM
just went to bilstein.com and didnt see this shock set.
dilo2001gt
1/8/2007 7:10:10 PM
Well they have them i have them on the truck now
Call the place i posted
Gunner_45
1/9/2007 2:17:37 AM

Ok...Mine came in today and will be installed tomorrow. The person listed below was who I ordered from.
Had to do it over the phone as they had not yet been put on the web site. Hopefully tomorrow, I can post
some comparison shots and part numbers. AND....Most importantly, my driving impressions after shock
install.
 
Chad Troxler
Sales / Marketing

1800 Art St.
Bakersfield, Ca 93312
Free: 866-426-4648
      T: 661-588-8085
      F: 661-588-8295
chad@cognitomotorsports.com
www.cognitomotorsports.com
 
 
 
Gunner_45
1/9/2007 2:33:42 AM
Oh and by the way....Here is a picture of my H3 "leveled" and one of those gollywompin' SMA guards on the front.
 
After 650 miles, the bars have settled in nicely and I measure out now at 23.75" front and 25.00" back. Axle center to fender lip of course.
 
KC lights, shocks, tires and wheels are going on tomorrow with a few more goodies to follow soon after.
 
Figured I better put up or shut up....
 
 


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dilo2001gt
1/9/2007 7:44:20 AM
Looks good now you need some 35in tires
bmbenear
1/9/2007 11:59:07 AM
Here's a couple of shots of my '07 Aventure after cranking the torsion bars all the way up. I've ordered a kit from a company called Ready Lift which will have H3 products on the market starting January 20th. Comparable to the Truxx kit but the price was $220.00. They have a web site, Readylift.com and phone number to call. I spoke with a guy named Mark. Pretty sharp cookie.
Sure have enjoyed this forum, lots of great ideas and answers. Thanks everyone.


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Dennis
1/9/2007 3:01:41 PM
Looks good Bert..Who did the set up in town here?
Dennis
1/9/2007 4:03:47 PM
Looks pretty damn good Gunner...
bmbenear
1/9/2007 4:08:05 PM
Merles Frame and Alignment, 8406 S. Shields
Dennis
1/9/2007 4:31:49 PM
Okay..that's near me..I'm at Earlywine Golf course (Rivendell)
Gunner_45
1/9/2007 5:03:26 PM
Thanks Dilo and Dennis............I'm trying to get there with it...............
 
As for the shock thingy.......
 
Bilstein / Cognito 5100 series
 
Part number F4-BE56140-75
 
$80.00 each
 
Handling is improved overall and the harshness of speed bumps and potholes has diminished significantly.
Were they worth it? To me yes…..Just need a matching set for the rear.
Gunner_45
1/9/2007 5:05:55 PM
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Gunner_45
1/9/2007 5:10:14 PM
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Dennis
1/9/2007 5:29:56 PM
Now that's a proud HUMMER owner for you..You know this because they show you their personal stuff like, his shock absorber
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