rotten
9/10/2007 4:54:35 AM
Well, I guess my point was lost a while back and i'm sorry if i ruffled anyone's feathers. I know as a newbie, i overstepped my boundaries so this is a personal apology to all of you. I honestly wasn't trying to just stir up any. I hope i can still play with you guys, and galls. The Fj can do whatever because, i own a Hummer, it's what i chose. I love my H3 and I hope it is just the first of many Hummers that i will own. I think they are great cars! Now, I'm off to other parts of the board.
importkiller
9/10/2007 8:55:02 AM
no sweat rotten....your welcome here, disagreements are always going to happen...no biggie
ockie
9/10/2007 9:52:14 AM
Yeah no big deal.
On another note, my friends family (still lives with his parents, go figure) recently leased Toyota Tacoma.... and so when he heard that I got myself a Hummer... he started to bash it... all he could say was negatives and tried to play on the whole uneducated hummer stereotypes. Boy, what nice friends
With that said, bash away
gunny
9/10/2007 5:05:08 PM
new member here. I have 2 h3's an 06 for my wife and an 07 that i just got for myself. I am a MDT Toyota tech and will confirm there is a frame problem with the FJ's and the tacomas. both are cracking after just a little off road use. As far as quality goes all vehicle have there little issues including my 2 h3's. nothing is without flaws. But , I would (and did) pick the Hummer over the Toy anyday.
blackstangs281
9/10/2007 5:07:52 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: gunny
new member here. I have 2 h3's an 06 for my wife and an 07 that i just got for myself. I am a MDT Toyota tech and will confirm there is a frame problem with the FJ's and the tacomas. both are cracking after just a little off road use. As far as quality goes all vehicle have there little issues including my 2 h3's. nothing is without flaws. But , I would (and did) pick the Hummer over the Toy anyday.
Welcome..............................And good comment!
Doc Olds
9/10/2007 7:27:08 PM
Gunny. Welcome. It's OK that you work on Yotas, yer drivin the right stuff!!!!!!!!!
Tacomas too, hmmmmm?
shortbus
9/11/2007 8:49:54 AM
i'll never bash a toyota, ever. but, my daughter's camry wasn't covered by warranty after she took it offroad either - i don't get it . . . . . . .
and it's not like the boulders were much bigger than the car . . . .
rotten
9/11/2007 9:14:21 AM
Holy jesus, bet if she had 35's on there she would have made it through.
shortbus
9/11/2007 9:18:22 AM
could be, might have done no more than bent or broken a tie rod . . . . . . .
ockie
9/11/2007 12:38:07 PM
Doc Olds
9/11/2007 1:07:31 PM
Yeah. Cracking!........and only a short distance offroad
too.
shortbus
9/11/2007 1:30:16 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Doc Olds
Yeah. Cracking!........and only a short distance offroad too.
only about 80 yards. but i don't think the frame cracked. it was just hammer-welded into a different shape . . . . .
NASA_Diver
9/20/2007 9:38:01 PM
I traded my 2007 FJ (kept for 10 months) for my hummer and I love the hummer! I took it off-road several times and it is a great vehicle. My down fall was the backseat space, 2 doors (plus suicide doors), and plastic like interior. My H3 has a nice ride and luxury feeling to it and off-road wise they are close. Just thought I would throw that out there since I owned both.
BDH3
9/21/2007 5:26:50 AM
Yeah last I saw it was inner fender cracks, not the frame..........that is a big difference!
importkiller
9/21/2007 10:40:06 AM
are you gonna post the same crap in EVERY thread about the FJ?!?!?! Maybe you should go buy one....you seem to like defending the POS a lot. And FJ owners have stated cracks in the FRAME..not the inner fender...that IS a big difference.
troll flags be waving again
shortbus
9/21/2007 11:05:20 AM
pipe down mr jeep lover . . . . . .
besides, now that you're part of the tuner crowd, we're almost surprised to see you here very often.
hey, mr crabby, how many more weeks 'til you get a smile on your face? 3? 4?
ockie
9/21/2007 11:09:39 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: BDH3
Yeah last I saw it was inner fender cracks, not the frame..........that is a big difference!
You seem to come off here as very anti-hummer.
Anywyas, with that out the way, the FJ's are having frame craking. If it was the body, it wouldn't have been a concern (at least to me), but it's the frame that is freaking people out. I don't think a body would cost $15,000 to fix for a simple crack (one FJ guy reported the repair costs).
BDH3
9/21/2007 1:11:31 PM
I came to this forum to get an honest no bullshit opinion about H3s because I am in the market, I am also looking at FJs so I have been reading about them. I have seen the cracks on my friends FJ and they are not on the frame. Last time I checked the frame was on the bottom of the vehicle and not made out of sheetmetal. The cracks I saw wer in the crumple zones inside the engine bay/front fender wells.
I can see I will gain no value from this site. All I have read is that the H3 is "badass" and the FJ is made in Japan so it must be crap. Who made your TV?
We live in a global market, so to get a product sold it needs to be the best..........I don't care where it's made as long as it is the best!
I guess I will look somewhere else for real information about the H3.
importkiller
9/21/2007 1:32:41 PM
shortbus
9/21/2007 1:37:57 PM
tomp
9/21/2007 2:14:23 PM
If you are a US born citizen, you should always lean towards supporting your country when two competing products are comparative. On top of that, the freakin' body is cracking in half on the FJ and there is still a question in your mind as to which is better? I say get out of here and hopefully the misfits in the FJ forum that support the Japan will take you in and all of you guys can have a pity party talking about how to get the best deal on body repairs and many other things that come along with taking your whole front clip off your vehicle off to get it repaired!
rotten
9/21/2007 4:10:35 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: BDH3
I can see I will gain no value from this site. All I have read is that the H3 is "badass" and the FJ is made in Japan so it must be crap. Who made your TV?.
I hate to feed the troll, but most tv's are made in china now, not japan. Oh well
If you want pro FJ opinions, maybe you need to go to an FJ site, not a hummer site.
NASA_Diver
9/21/2007 6:33:27 PM
Honestly
BDH3, I think you will like the Hummer better. Like I said I owned the FJ for 10 months and gave it a good run for it's money. Overall I think the Hummer has a nicer feel and will hold it's value. If you are looking for some good input on this website.... there ya go! My sister and I bought our FJ's at the same time (better deal) and we both traded them in less than a year later. I am not an FJ "hater", I am just happier with the H3.
