dapembroidery
4/18/2006 9:17:02 AM
So sorry SHORTBUS!
Giving credit where credit is due.
HEY GUYS, SHORTBUS SAYS THE SIDE MIRRORS ARE TOO SMALL. I CONCUR.
Danielle
shortbus
4/18/2006 10:07:21 AM
geez, now that i have the attention i wanted, i'm not so sure i like it. OMG, i must be turning into a woman . . . .
Dennis
4/18/2006 10:15:36 AM
There, there..Just take your hormones
have you noticed...As Shorty's wife becomes more pregnant, he becomes more moodier?
shortbus
4/18/2006 11:03:52 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Dennis
There, there..Just take your hormones
have you noticed...As Shorty's wife becomes more pregnant, he becomes more moodier?
she better not be pregnant, our son was born last September, and i paid a visit to the vet afterward.
you haven't been to CA lately have you?
Dennis
4/18/2006 11:07:55 AM
No..Not since last July...But perhaps it's postpartum depression then..
Cruizer
4/18/2006 5:26:25 PM
HAHA! I'm in shock. I guess I shouldn't expect to go to a hummer forum and find any love for these things.
I must admit I did not look under it. lol
I'd have one if the back door/rear seat was bigger. It's too small to truly be a 4 door, that I'll give you. And I don't know where you're getting 35k. The one here is decked out and it's only 27k. They start at 23-24k and therefore it's not even in the same price range as an H3 much less the 55+k H2. Hmmm...
shortbus
4/18/2006 5:59:07 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Cruizer
HAHA! I'm in shock. I guess I shouldn't expect to go to a hummer forum and find any love for these things.
I must admit I did not look under it. lol
I'd have one if the back door/rear seat was bigger. It's too small to truly be a 4 door, that I'll give you. And I don't know where you're getting 35k. The one here is decked out and it's only 27k. They start at 23-24k and therefore it's not even in the same price range as an H3 much less the 55+k H2. Hmmm...
dealer price on the window said $35k, that's where it came from.
Cruizer
4/21/2006 3:01:20 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: shortbus
dealer price on the window said $35k, that's where it came from.
Sounds like my visit to the Phoenix Hummer dealerships where a 33k hummer is 40k.
Well for $20k more I would hope you like an H2 better.
Michael
4/29/2006 3:11:29 AM
Regardless of the naysaying, I drove the FJ Cruiser, and thought it was quite well done overall. On the downside, the dashboard was overstyled, as is, the subwoofer in the back. The interior is not as well done as the H3, and looks somewhat cheap, almost to the point of being embarrassing. As far as underbody protection goes, you can order the Protection Pkg. on the FJ, which includes rock rails, and front skid plate. As expected with 239 hp and 400 pounds less weight, the FJ had better acceleration performance than the H3. The ride was better on the FJ, too, except for some VERY annoying head toss, as the FJ swayed from side-to-side, which the H3 avoids with its wider track. Both trucks with their near vertical and flat windshields is wind noise at highway speeds. The FJ had a few things I wish GM would copy to the H3, such as a rear window that opens so you carry load long items, and a paint job without tons of orange peel (c'mon GM, there is no excuse for this painted with Rustoleum spray cans quality in 2006). The interior fit was better on the FJ, too, where the H3 has gaps where there shouldn't be. Besides the interior styling (my opinion, of course), the only major area I think Toyota blew it was the turning diameter, which is 41.8 feet curb to curb.
Frankly, I'm glad to see more competition in the true offroad truck category. It can only push the manufacturers to do better work.
Michael
HUDYHUE
4/30/2006 10:36:32 PM
well let me tell you as a hard core fj owner (a 66 and 73) i was really leaning to the new fj.... and the day after our test ride we bought our H3..... not enough back seat room ,doors are to thick ,back doors are ver akward to open and close from the back seat....
Very happy with our h3
HUDYHUE
4/30/2006 10:56:37 PM
as a hard core toy guy( i have 2 fj a 66 and a73) i past on the new fj and the day after the test drive bought a H3
James
Greenblade
5/1/2006 7:03:10 AM
I agree that the H2 doesn't drive all that big. Its nowhere near as cumbersome as a big, long pickup, for example.
These comments on the H3 and the FJ are based on 15 minute test drives, and sitting in them at the dealer. I'm an H2 driver and i really enjoy that big beast, for a few reasons. I like the view from up there, the ride is great, its fun off-roading although i'm truly a novice at this point, it draws more attention than a porsche, blah blah blah. But mostly, its insanely comfortable, and the interior has a unique-to-it sort of snugness. Like SUV meets sports car slightly crossbred with some kind of cockpit.
The H3 rides a little rougher than the H2, but it shares the things that i ultimately like so much about the H2. Its really, really nice in there. Let the magazines whine about (as they do all american cars, regardless) whatever, the hummers are very unique, and very satisfying trucks to just be in. And, although its not as insane, the H3 isn't really worse looking than the H2. Just less insane, and in ways its put together a little neater.
The FJ was truly not enjoyable to me at all. It had not one thing on the hummers in terms of ride, driveability, etc., and it utterly and totally lacked that hummerness of the inside experience. The interior struck me as the cross-breeding of a photo of the H2 interior with a corolla, and i didn't dig it. It seemed gimmicky. The exterior styling is also (to me) hummer wannabe with some kindergarten lego-project novelty thrown in just for kicks. And (to me) it just didn't work.
That said, Toyotas factory nav systems seem to be about prime-time for factory nav units, and the factory nav unit in my H2 is roughly as helpful as just getting wildly drunk, licking your finger, sticking it up in the wind, and following whichever side got cold.
I test drove a new Wrangler as well, and i'd have to confess that its a far cry from the god-awful hellishness of the old army jeep we had as kids.
