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Cruizer
4/2/2006 8:13:15 PM
hello all.

I'm new to the forum and just thought I'd pick your brains. I wasn't sure I'd like the H3 and the closest dealership is almost 3 hours away. Well I went and drove both a manual and auto and thought both did just great. (I usually buy manual only but am thinking of an automatic this time.) The dealership didn't have in stock the ones they claimed they did and it was really not a good trip. There was one that was remotely close, Superior Blue, auto, base package, chrome wheels, chrome appearance package and $200 window tint, 270 test drive miles on it and needs a good cleaning. The sticker was something a little over 33k. (I originally was hoping for a very basic one so the price kind of got to me. My big problem is my trade in I guess. I have an 03 Mustang GT manual in pristine condition and they want to 'be generous' and give me 11500. Kbb.com says the 'good' trade in is 12500 or so. And after all was said and done, the difference is something like 21300. To make a long story short I left. Now I'm back home and the next dealership is about 5 hrs away. lol

Seems like there are no incentives and I'm just curious what a good deal would be? How much should they come off MSRP? Just need an idea before I'm at the next place.
Also, I just can't decide on a color!!! I was liking slate blue in pics but in person I don't think it's as good as I thought. :)
Dennis
4/2/2006 11:31:45 PM
Well I've posted this in about three places now,,so why not here too

I got the; Adventure package, Chrome appearance package, Chrome Hood handles, Chrome tubular side steps, Chrome fuel door cover, 6CD/XM/Monsoon sound system, Trailer/tow package, Spare tire cover, Cloth seats, No sunroof (hate those things, always a problem with them)No documentaion fee.. and a full tank of gas for $32,500. OTD

I can recommend a dealer in Little Rock, Arkansas (actually Benton) Called Landers Hummer, they usually have around a 150 H3s in stock to choose from...I got mine at Invoice...They will pick you up from the airport if need be..I was telling someone else here that a majority of their business is from out of state..I worked my whole deal over the phone with them with no cash crossing hands. I drove 380 miles to pickup exactly what I wanted in equip and options, and at exactly the price we worked out, Period!..Very happy.
Call if you're interested...Call Rachael Buck..800-896-5263..Tell her that Dennis from Oklahoma City sent you..She will hook you up.
T bar
4/2/2006 11:41:26 PM
THANKS!!! You have no idea how valuable this kind of information is to someone looking to buy. I have to wonder if you run into any tax issues buying from out of state. I guess you'd just pay all the taxes when you tag it back in your own state.
Dennis
4/2/2006 11:51:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: T bar

THANKS!!! You have no idea how valuable this kind of information is to someone looking to buy. I have to wonder if you run into any tax issues buying from out of state. I guess you'd just pay all the taxes when you tag it back in your own state.
Exactly..No problems at all..
skeeet
4/3/2006 12:33:47 AM
I picked up my factory ordered H3 from a dealer 5 hours away in Las Vegas, Towbin Hummer. The 3 Phoenix dealers are all owned by the same family so not only is there very little off MSRP but there is a mandatory "Desert Protection ppackage" for around $2500 (it includes a useless paint protectant. window tint over the factory tint, fabric protectant) plus on top of that most H3's had ugly but expensive pin stripping.
I had an agreed price of $29,927 with Towbin for a new, ( it had 4 miles on it when it came in- I did not want any miles as I know the test miles can be hard on a vehicle that is not broken in). Options were; automatic, adventurer's package, engine block heater and roof rail air bags. When the H3 finally came in after a 5 week build I drove to Towbin and was told there was a mistake in the pricing. They wanted $1800 more , then went down to $1100 and finally I accepted $400 more than the $29,927 we agreed to because I felt $30300 with all fees, etc ( no tax ) was still a good price.
I really like the H3. Gas mileage has been 17 to 19.5 and should get better when it is broken in. It rides tight , quiet, and secure. Some here complained about a wobbly ride on highway and bet they did not have 36 psi in the tires.The low front and rear over hangs really gets me to places that would take the back bumper off my Jeep Grand Cherokee. Very rich looking interior and lots of stares.
Hope this helps!
skeeet
4/3/2006 12:37:06 AM
PS- My h3 listed for about $33,000 so I got about $2,600 off. If you can sell the Mustang privately and put a deposit on an ordered one. Dealers are more likely to discount an ordered car deeper than one on the lot.
Good luck!
Cruizer
4/3/2006 12:48:28 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Especially that info about Phoenix. Our next step was either Phoenix area dealers or Albuquerque. El Paso seems to be run by a bunch of wetbacks and every vehicle has an $800 alarm system that I don't want. But I guess you can't blame them right there by the border. I was under the impression some of these places would want to move something that was on the lot rather than order. They do have a special supposedly that ends April 4 called 'March Madness' where the older stock is discounted $1000.
I think we might try Albuquerque next. Although it's 5 hrs, they claim they have one of just about every color in basic auto with cloth.
As for AR, I might do it at another point in my life but just these shorter trips are enough for me. I'm almost 8 months expectant and hate to get too far from home this late.

I also dread meeting with all the yahoo's that might be interested in my Mustang if I were to sell it locally. As a manual, we won't get many calls on it. Seems shifting gears is a lost art anymore. lol.
Dennis
4/3/2006 1:01:03 PM
Albuquerque is a pretty good place..I almost went with a deal there...But I also weighed the travel time..10 hours vs 5 hours to Arkansas for me...And I'm not even pregnant

BTW: Good idea on taking the beater off road, rather than a $35,000 new vehicle.
Cruizer
4/3/2006 1:11:11 PM
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BTW: Good idea on taking the beater off road, rather than a $35,000 new vehicle.


Yeah well the Bronco is pretty nice too but there is NO WAY I would take a brand new Hummer off in the brushy stuff around here!! My gravel driveway will be enough for now.
wordstew
4/3/2006 6:36:54 PM
I got an H3, Auto, Adventure package, Chrome side tubes, 6 Disc Monsoon stereo, trailor package, and dual headrest DVD's.
Paid $30,500.00.

I parked next to a Toyota FJ cruiser yesterday. Next to my H3 it looked like a $25,000.00 vehicle my H3 looked like a $45,000.00 vehicle. H# won hands down
OUTLAW
4/3/2006 6:49:48 PM
Wow thats a good price! New?
quote:

ORIGINAL: wordstew

I got an H3, Auto, Adventure package, Chrome side tubes, 6 Disc Monsoon stereo, trailor package, and dual headrest DVD's.
Paid $30,500.00.

I parked next to a Toyota FJ cruiser yesterday. Next to my H3 it looked like a $25,000.00 vehicle my H3 looked like a $45,000.00 vehicle. H# won hands down

skeeet
4/4/2006 12:12:31 AM
Wordstew - That is some great price!!! Did it have any mileage? How did you do it?
wordstew
4/4/2006 5:32:49 AM
Yes sir,

My H3 was brand new(3 miles on odometer). Of course I used GMID, then I asked the dealer to give me a list of alll the vehicles that where old enough to get the March Madness $1,000.00 rebate. I found the one I liked from the list then called the dealer and told him I could care less about the dual dvd players (no kids) and they would be a deal breaker so the dealership negotiated down to make the deal.

Too bad though, I think if I had any points on my GM card I could have gotten another $500-$1000 off that price. All in all I think I got a pretty good price.
Cruizer
4/4/2006 11:12:31 AM
Remind me what GMID is again. Yeah we looked into the March Madness thing. Just nothing out there that really matched what we wanted that qualified. I take it there aren't many incentives on these.
retnuh5
4/4/2006 11:22:55 AM
I just looked on the gm supplier discount web site and they are letting those who can get the supplier discount to extend it to 2 family or friends from now to May 31, 2006. So if you know anyone who gets a supplier discount, ask them to look into it for you.
Dennis
4/4/2006 11:36:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Cruizer

Remind me what GMID is again.

Something dumb like; "GM in your driveway"
Cruizer
4/4/2006 11:43:46 AM
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ORIGINAL: retnuh5

I just looked on the gm supplier discount web site and they are letting those who can get the supplier discount to extend it to 2 family or friends from now to May 31, 2006. So if you know anyone who gets a supplier discount, ask them to look into it for you.


Well I don't so there goes that!
Cruizer
4/4/2006 2:39:04 PM
OK I've located basically exactly what I'm looking for in Phoenix. They claim there are no other weird charges like desert protection. But of course there will be tax.

ADVENTURE PACKAGE
4 year / 50,000 mile limited warranty, Off-road suspension package. Fully locking electronic rear differential. 33-inch on/off road tires. $1,375
Automatic Transmission w/ Stabilitrak $1,695
Trailering Equipment $390
Trailering Package $150
Roof Rail Airbag $395
XM Radio $325
TOTAL OPTIONS $4,330

TOTAL MSRP AS CONFIGURED** $33,830.00

I really don't need the XM for sure because I use sirius and Not too sure about the 'Trailering Package'. So knowing what my trade in is, what is my goal price wise? I just don't know how much dealers will really come off.

Dennis
4/4/2006 2:43:35 PM
What's the color/interior?

The trailering stuff is the hitch receiver and the wiring.
Cruizer
4/4/2006 3:15:14 PM
Superior Blue/Ebony

There is another very similarly equiped that is Boulder Grey/Ebony.


The trailering 'equipment' is the hitch and wiring. I thought the Trailering Package was an adapter plug and something else I don't need(?)
Dennis
4/4/2006 3:46:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: Cruizer

Superior Blue/Ebony

There is another very similarly equiped that is Boulder Grey/Ebony.


The trailering 'equipment' is the hitch and wiring. I thought the Trailering Package was an adapter plug and something else I don't need(?)

Same thing..it's the wiring and plug kit for the trailer lights + the actual trailer Hitch receiver, where you stick in a trailer ball.

See here..I have this reverse sensor mounted in the trailer hitch receiver where the ball would ordinarily go..and the plug is the thingy on the side with the wire going to it, this would ordinarily be where the trailer electrical would plug into for the lights.
Cruizer
4/4/2006 5:08:05 PM
OK My impression from the hummer site is that it is a 7 to 4 pin adapter (We use a 6 pin and already own an adapter), a power outlet at the rear (don't need that), and a hitch cover (don't need that). However, sounds like the outlet would be already installed on the vehicle, the hitch cover might come off and the adapter might be in the glove box or something. Just wondering if this is something they can remove from the vehicle if I don't want it.
Dennis
4/4/2006 7:02:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: Cruizer

O Just wondering if this is something they can remove from the vehicle if I don't want it.
Anything can be removed..But in this case it maybe better to except it as a bonus..helps with resale too...The only real down side if you are wanting to remove it..The bumper is special cut to fit the hitch...You'd also have to get a new bumper...So it might come in handy someday, you never know.
Cruizer
4/4/2006 9:17:10 PM
OK wait, I think you are misunderstanding me. I want the hitch. I just don't want the adapter parts. They list them seperately.
Dennis
4/4/2006 10:07:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: Cruizer

OK wait, I think you are misunderstanding me. I want the hitch. I just don't want the adapter parts. They list them seperately.


All righty then....Maybe this will help

This is a picture of the electrical plug receptical on the car..now sorta hard wired in permanent (part of Trailering package).


This here is the box it all comes in...$150.00


And this is what's left over in the box..Two different plug adapters (they should adapt to most trailer plug applications) and a Hitch receiver cover for when you don't have anything in the receiver....


Maybe I assumed you knew..if you tow a trailer, it needs to have all the rear lights working on it...A law in every State...So the Tow hitch and the electrical hook ups go hand in hand...Even though it is listed as a seperate option... why they didn't package it as all one option..who knows? Never the less, it still goes with the tow hitch package..kinda a both or nothing kinda deal..
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