Cold air intake?

Hey guys I was wondering which of you have put the K&N intake on your trucks? I had one on my Silverado and it sounded great. It had the deep roar to it when mashin the gas. I am kinda lookin for this in the 3 but not sure if it will sound that great. Also what is the difference in the 63 and 77 model besides the horsepower gains. Thanks guys and if any of you want to sell roof rack bars let me know. Need the for the yak and surf boards. Thanks

I was going back and forth between the K&N and the Airaid. That is, until I looked more closely at the stock air box. It seems to me that the intake on the stocker is a tube up into the fender to take advantage of colder air coming in rather than drawing out of the engine compartment. The Airaid system looks like it has a similar set up while the K&N appears to just draw straight from under the hood. Is this right? Based on that, I'm going with the Airaid. The colder the better.

What 05???..There never was an '05 H3..Only the 06 that came out late spring 05...Is that what you mean?

The K&N does not have a direct tube to the fender cavity as the stock filter does..But it compartmentizes that area of the engine compartment to still draw air from the hole in the fender...Having said that, the Volant also makes a COLD AIR INTAKE kit that untilizes that hole too..Personally, I think the little amount of heated air that would draw in on the K&N would only be at a stand still, but once you got moving the air forced in through the grille and front end would sweep the hot air away from the intake...Also the AIRaid and Volant still use the smallish diameter hole in the fender thereby; you will still have restricted amounts of air flow due to that small factory fender hole...

Now you have something to think about.

Here is a K&N link to the 77 and 63 series Intake kits..I have the 63 series;..Both series should fit the current 06 H3...I've seen pictures here of people that has the 77 series on their H3..

I cant find any pics of the 77 on here....Dennis does it really sound good or no? also what about it sucking water if I ever offroad? Never a problem on the silverado but????? Thanks guys

Sorry Grunt, (term of endearment from a NAVY guy)

I looked around for the pictures too..it maybe on another forum, been a while since I've seen it..

But anyways..Yes I think it sounds cool with the foot on the throttle...The 77 is no better than the 63 IMO, as it is just under-the-hood bling...Actually there is a down side to the 77, that being they are metal and metal attracks heat much more than the nylon intake tube, so the cool air effects are null and voided by the hot metal intake tube.

Oops..forgot your other question,.

K&N makes a water sock you can put over the filter..it is a fine mesh material that water can't penetrate, but air gets through just fine...having said that, if you are wading in water that deep, then you will have more problems with other things, than water being sucked in.

Dennis, I am thinking of getting one of these as well. Two questions, is it easily installed if I am to do it myself? I assume it should be pretty straight forward installation. Other thing and more important, I work in a place where there is quite a bit of dust due to trucks and lots of dirt around the area. I know K&N filters are not advisable in this situation but what about this air intake ??

Hi Raffi,

They are real easy to install..you need a few standard and metric wrenches..The instructions are very well written and simple, that's why it was so easy for me

As far as the dusty conditions...Are you constantly running up and down dirt roads or driveways that are powerfine dust all day?, then yes, you may dirty up the filter sooner than normal....But factually enough, as the filter gets more dirty, it filters better without loss of air flow, compared to paper pleatted filters...If you change your engine oil at 5000 miles or less you'll have no problems.

But when it comes to cleaning the filter and re-oiling it, be very careful not to over oil, just a little dribble on the edge of the pleats and let it soak in from there, don't try to coat all of it at once, as the oil will migrate throughout the filter medium on it's own.

Nevermind. It will work. I missed a step.

Thanks ! I change oil every 3000 miles...... I dont drive up and down constantly, I usually only get to work and then when I go home I leave, lunch rarely. now you are saying the sand will clear the air better? but wouldnt the sand get inside the compartment to whichever the air is going to ? I would think that would be a bad thing.....

Raffi you can always add this
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K&N Filter Wraps work to prolong the life of your K&N FilterCharger when used in extremely dusty conditions, while also giving your engine that extra bit of style. Durable, double stitched polyester material traps dirt particles as small as .005" in diameter, yet still allows for a 90% airflow rate. Custom made for each application to ensure a perfect fit onto your filter.




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There are a couple of things missing:

The kit for the 2006 H3 comes with a bracket that bolts to the bottom of the tube and to the side of the head for added support. It also has a area on top for the sensor to be bolted too.

Heres my two cents, save your money and just install the air filter instead of the whole kit. I had the kit for about a week and took it off to much "air swooshing" noise for me. I then installed just the air filter, truck felt the same. One of the best aftermarket parts I installed was the Air Raid Throttle Spacer.

thanks dilo ! if I decide not to use that , you suppose I could damage the engine ? I suppose there is dust everywhere, and people who go offroading use these as well...... if so what kind of damage are we talking about?

Raffi..I know the questions was for Mark...But I'll jump up if it's alright..

There has been some bad rap about K&N and simular types filters, that will allow some fine dust to enter the engine...But After close analysis, I find the results are skewed to defame K&N...I mean, wouldn't you try to against a competitor?...K&N have been around doing this filter thing for many, many years, and if they are not doing a good job of filtering, then they would not still be in business..think about it.

Anyways, as I said any dust that might get by will end up in your crank oil (I hate that when that happens)...So regular oil changes with a new oil filter and at or less than 5000 mile intervals will be your safest insurance to protect from this contamination, should any actually get in...But under certain Sahara type dusty conditions on a day to day basis, I would also use the filter bag that Mark showed us above.

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There are a couple of things missing:

The kit for the 2006 H3 comes with a bracket that bolts to the bottom of the tube and to the side of the head for added support. It also has a area on top for the sensor to be bolted too.

Heres my two cents, save your money and just install the air filter instead of the whole kit. I had the kit for about a week and took it off to much "air swooshing" noise for me. I then installed just the air filter, truck felt the same. One of the best aftermarket parts I installed was the Air Raid Throttle Spacer.

You are the first person that didn't get all the parts with their K&N kit I've heard of...Also true enough, the sound is louder than the air box filter too, that takes some getting use to if you're not expecting it..But it's only howls a little with heavy acceleration.

And last; If you feel or notice a benifit with the AIRaid throttle body spacer, then more power to you..Again, this thing is a worthless gimick in my opinion and it actually adds a bit of intake restriction. It is supose to swirl the air as it pass through the thing...But once the air is in the intake manifold chambers, it is also swirled for the same reason the Spacer claims it does..So in effect the process of swirling the air is double done needlessly, but I'm not trying to shoot you down if you feel it is worthy.

Thanks again and sure you can jump in :) I mean I am in no sahara coditions.... I work in a Beverage Plant..... many trucks pickup and deliver every day, ofcourse there is regular pavement but most of their parking area is gravel and dirt, so cars usually get dirty parking in the area...... I really only drive here for a minute or so when I come in and then leave work.....

that explains everything

Beverage Plant.....

HyHy :D I wish it was that kind..... we make Fuze, Glaceau Vitamin Water, Snapple, Sbarro and just starting the Coca Cola Iced Teas

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ORIGINAL: Dennis

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ORIGINAL: illusn

There are a couple of things missing:

The kit for the 2006 H3 comes with a bracket that bolts to the bottom of the tube and to the side of the head for added support. It also has a area on top for the sensor to be bolted too.

Heres my two cents, save your money and just install the air filter instead of the whole kit. I had the kit for about a week and took it off to much "air swooshing" noise for me. I then installed just the air filter, truck felt the same. One of the best aftermarket parts I installed was the Air Raid Throttle Spacer.

You are the first person that didn't get all the parts with their K&N kit I've heard of...Also true enough, the sound is louder than the air box filter too, that takes some getting use to if you're not expecting it..But it's only howls a little with heavy acceleration.

And last; If you feel or notice a benifit with the AIRaid throttle body spacer, then more power to you..Again, this thing is a worthless gimick in my opinion and it actually adds a bit of intake restriction. It is supose to swirl the air as it pass through the thing...But once the air is in the intake manifold chambers, it is also swirled for the same reason the Spacer claims it does..So in effect the process of swirling the air is double done needlessly, but I'm not trying to shoot you down if you feel it is worthy.

I understand you comments and don't feel you are trying to shoot me down. I was just giving my two cents and trying to save him some money.

What I mean by parts missing (my kit had everything). I was referring to your photo, I didn't see the bracket that mounts to the bottom of the tube and to side of the head, and the sensor that needs to be mounted on the top of the tube.

AirRaid, all these years I was also hesitant about installing this item. But after hearing numerous stories from friends who have installed this on numerous vehicles and their claims. I decided to try it since the H3 needed all the help it could get. Since this is such a easy install, I have removed it tested the vehicle, replaced it and tested the vehicle and there is a difference. For $100 investment a noticeable difference could be felt versus a $250+ investment for a airfilter system. But still its only a 5 cyl.

07 Cadillac Escalade
06 H3
05 BMW 545i
04 H2
03 MB E320
02 Harley Davidson Truck
00 Lincoln Navigator
and the list goes on...

That's cool Illi..there just maybe some creedence to the thing..I don't doubt you at all.

My 63 series K&N came with all those parts too you mentioned they just didn't show up in that picture

See the following;

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Support Bracket

Dennis, given my situtation, would you install the yellow filter on top of the air intake or you think i might be ok without it?

I would, if it were me..I would not worry about the extra filter bag...But you seemed a little concerned, so maybe for piece of mind, put the bag on if you expect a lot of dusty travels.

yeah seems like u understand where I am comming from perfectly, little scary though hehe..... I want to keep the car safe but also dont want to loose the 10% air :D but it seems it would be wise for me to put it on like you say...... wondering how much and if at all will I be still getting an improvement over the current factory setup.

if anything to be worried about is the oil on the filter getting in the system not the little dust you talking about