35's are now Rubbing- What's up with that?

As you can see, my new 35"  MTZ's are now rubbing on that piece of round metal on the inside of the wheel well.  I don't think it was happening last night when they were installed.  I have the Leveling Kit - what can I do to fix this.
 
(You'll see in the pic where the dirt is rubbed away from the black metal piece...not sure what its called)
 
 
 
 


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dude whats up with those 35's how much and good luck with ur h3 06 here not much luck i still want 35's though lol

that round thing would be your sway bar

these kinds of things happen to all fourwheelers that are into straying away from stock the next step is a four inch lift kit

On the factory rims the do that at full turn try not to make tight turns.
mine do it but i take a little rubbing anyday to have my 35s

dilo 's right. On the factory rims my 315/75/16 tires crown and bulge out more than normal. Not much you can do about it, other than dont full turn lock steering. Ive gotten use to not turning the steering wheel all the way on tight turns. Ive had 35's on for over a year , no problem. Heres a pic of the crowning on my tires,, you can see where the rubber on the sides dosnt make contact with the road a proper air pressure


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ORIGINAL: azz7772

these kinds of things happen to all fourwheelers that are into straying away from stock the next step is a four inch lift kit

 
ummm...thats totally false!
 
 If the rubbing is bad and you don't want to get new rims with an offet that will prevent rubbing, just get yourself some 1" wheel spacers. They bolt onto the hub where the tire bolt to now then the tire bolts onto the lugs that are mounted in the spacer......they are VERY safe and jeepers have been using them for years. I installed a set of 2" spacers on my brothers JK when I lifted it....They were $100 a pair. This will fix all rub issues you are having.

Thanks to all of you for educating my dumb a$$ (re: sway bars and spacers).  the fact is, I'm never taking the 35's off because I think that they look so awesome -- I notice no difference in shift points, cabin noise, or handling ( just as ImportK had said).  I'll consider going the spacers route, but I've poured enought cash into it in the last 7 days to hold me over for a while. 

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ORIGINAL: importkiller

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ORIGINAL: azz7772

these kinds of things happen to all fourwheelers that are into straying away from stock the next step is a four inch lift kit

ummm...thats totally false!

If the rubbing is bad and you don't want to get new rims with an offet that will prevent rubbing, just get yourself some 1" wheel spacers. They bolt onto the hub where the tire bolt to now then the tire bolts onto the lugs that are mounted in the spacer......they are VERY safe and jeepers have been using them for years. I installed a set of 2" spacers on my brothers JK when I lifted it....They were $100 a pair. This will fix all rub issues you are having.

 
Mike do you know a site that sells them for the H3
 
Thanks Mark

Forums like this are sometimes double edged swords. On one hand they are a terrific resource for information and advice. However, unless you ask "all" of the right questions, you may not always get the whole story and sometimes the advice isn't worth the paper it isn't written on. This is a good example; you got lots of information on tires and pricing, but might not have received all the accurate informtion you needed on "fitting" oversized tires.

Someone on here, I forgot who, called 285/75/16 tires "wimpy". Maybe they are and maybe they aren't, but they fit w/o any modifications. You can buy wheel spacers which will push your tires outboard and stop, or at least reduce your rubbing, but they are not legal in all States and not everyone would agree they are completely safe. I'm not saying they aren't, but I have spoken with some knowledgable people who refuse to use them. Your second option is to start looking for new wheels that have the appropriate "backspacing" that will essentially do the same thing as the spacers, push your tires outward and eliminate the rubbing. I have not upsized to 35" tires on an H3 so I have not researched the appropriate backspacing to use, perhaps someone who has can chime in with some helpful information. Another solution would be to mechanically limit your turning radius, again I have only done this on Wranglers and Cherokees and won't offer advice on something I have not done myself, but more than likely it is possible.

Turning "may" not be your only problem! Anyone know if you can stuff 315's during full articulation on a completely stock suspension? If not, how much of a lift is required to clear them?

Another question i would like to ask is, are there any issues with axels when you upsize to 35" tires? I know that 33" is about the limit of tourque before most knowledgable people recommend you need to get new axels on Jeeps.

We need a new subforum..........
(Import)Killer Tires...or Ask killer..( something like that.)
Import killer's the man with the info.Thanks for sharing.........Shawn..(I'm serious)

By the way 07HummerH3 ,
I think they'll look even tougher sticking out some with the spacers .Can't tell if you have mud flaps or not , but you'll diffently want some if not.I bought the Husky mud flaps with the molded H3 indention in the rear flaps , and they look killer.I haven't bought the decails to put in yet
($75.00 + shipping ..ouch) , but they look cool with out the decails anyway's. Keep us updated ...Shawn 

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By the way 07HummerH3 ,
I think they'll look even tougher sticking out some with the spacers .Can't tell if you have mud flaps or not , but you'll diffently want some if not.I bought the Husky mud flaps with the molded H3 indention in the rear flaps , and they look killer.I haven't bought the decails to put in yet
($75.00 + shipping ..ouch) , but they look cool with out the decails anyway's. Keep us updated ...Shawn 

 
I have the mud flaps from the dealer- not great for off roading, but keeps rocks and road debris from kicking up and chipping the paint.  I'd like to see if the turning radius can be limited to remedy the rubbing issue.  If not, the spacers (if they are legal in NJ and I can find a place to buy them.  I searched on the net with no luck)

I think in NJ your tires can't stick out more than your fenders.

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ORIGINAL: JustHummin

Forums like this are sometimes double edged swords. On one hand they are a terrific resource for information and advice. However, unless you ask "all" of the right questions, you may not always get the whole story and sometimes the advice isn't worth the paper it isn't written on. This is a good example; you got lots of information on tires and pricing, but might not have received all the accurate informtion you needed on "fitting" oversized tires.

Someone on here, I forgot who, called 285/75/16 tires "wimpy". Maybe they are and maybe they aren't, but they fit w/o any modifications. You can buy wheel spacers which will push your tires outboard and stop, or at least reduce your rubbing, but they are not legal in all States and not everyone would agree they are completely safe. I'm not saying they aren't, but I have spoken with some knowledgable people who refuse to use them. Your second option is to start looking for new wheels that have the appropriate "backspacing" that will essentially do the same thing as the spacers, push your tires outward and eliminate the rubbing. I have not upsized to 35" tires on an H3 so I have not researched the appropriate backspacing to use, perhaps someone who has can chime in with some helpful information. Another solution would be to mechanically limit your turning radius, again I have only done this on Wranglers and Cherokees and won't offer advice on something I have not done myself, but more than likely it is possible.

Turning "may" not be your only problem! Anyone know if you can stuff 315's during full articulation on a completely stock suspension? If not, how much of a lift is required to clear them?

Another question i would like to ask is, are there any issues with axels when you upsize to 35" tires? I know that 33" is about the limit of tourque before most knowledgable people recommend you need to get new axels on Jeeps.

Anyone know if you can stuff 35's into a stock fenderwell on full articulation w/ a completely stock suspension?

If you can't, then this poor guy might have more problems than he thinks, he might tear up a fender the first time he takes it off-road... (?)

Ive wheeled with my 35's quite a few times.  No problem... But I have my torsion bars cranked up alittle over a inch to help with clearance. Also upgraded my shocks to help. Granted Ive never jumped or really pounded the trails hard when I wheel so its not a issue with me. I suppose if you abuse your rig you could possibly hit the under parts but I never have.


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....this is happening on flat ground when I lock the steering either R or L - rubbing the sway bars

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ORIGINAL: 07HummerH3

....this is happening on flat ground when I lock the steering either R or L - rubbing the sway bars

It might be worst if your turning and in a crossed up situation off-road. I would have someone spot you and see what happens when you compress a tire (full stuff) off-road, aqnd I would heed the advice about cranking the T-bars and upgrading shocks - if nothing else, a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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ORIGINAL: JustHummin

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ORIGINAL: 07HummerH3

....this is happening on flat ground when I lock the steering either R or L - rubbing the sway bars

It might be worst if your turning and in a crossed up situation off-road. I would have someone spot you and see what happens when you compress a tire (full stuff) off-road, aqnd I would heed the advice about cranking the T-bars and upgrading shocks - if nothing else, a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 
I've already installed the Truxxx leveling kit - Unless I'm wrong, I can't now crank up the torsion bars in addition to that.  I will be riding around with my nose in the air - euphemistically.

With your leveling kit you should be allright.  I only get slight rub at full right lock of steering. Your kit probably raised the front more than my 2 -1/2 turn t- bar adjustment. Im not trying to talk you into anything, just saying what I did.  Oh yeah,  my shock upgrade was one of the best investments Ive made to my truck.  Good luck,,

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ORIGINAL: StarsnBars

With your leveling kit you should be allright.  I only get slight rub at full right lock of steering. Your kit probably raised the front more than my 2 -1/2 turn t- bar adjustment. Im not trying to talk you into anything, just saying what I did.  Oh yeah,  my shock upgrade was one of the best investments Ive made to my truck.  Good luck,,

 
I'm not understanding you, because even with my leveling kit I have rubbing both on the L and R sides at full turn.  If I have the dealership crank up the T-bars a little when I get my alignment done on Tuesday, will this alleviate the situation? 

Whats your tire size.  Mine are 315/75/16.  

This problem is very easy to fix.  I had it on my ZR2 Blazer when I got 32" tires, it is not nearly as bad on my H3 with 35's.  Mine only rubs at full lock turning left (On the sway bar like yours)  It doesn't really bother me because the turning of the H3 is so tight I rarely need to crank it all the way.  However on my Blazer it was a real problem, rubbed on both sides and the turning was not as good as the H3 so I was rubbing the bars quite often. 
 
The solution was to take the Blazer to my local muffler shop and had the guys weld a small piece of metal to the turning stops either on the nuckle or lower A arm, and the problem was solved, and the shopped didn't even want to charge me.  Turning circle  was not noticeably different, but there was no more rubbing!! 

Maybe your Mickey"s are alittle wider than my Pro Comp'S ? 

You should be all set with the leveling kit with the new keys you can not go any higher.The shocks should be ok too because your kit came with the 2in adapter for the shocks.My tires rub on tight turns my dealer notice it and told me not to worry about it.